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oops, left off add a 0
I do it that way cause it's easier than saying multiply your depth by 10 (and easier for me to calculate) .... look at the depth examples I gave ... add a 0 to 70ft = 700 + 300 (for an HP100) = 1000 ... that is the rule of thumb rock bottom for that depth and that tank
 
Further to the A and I threads here.... a glance at the annual DAN and BSAC reports will ease your fears about OOA being a big 'killer'. Here are some interesting reads....

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4) 36 of the 140 cases involved divers running out of breathing gas, although in many cases this was a secondary or tertiary factor.

Interrupting secondary or tertiary factors can also help to interrupt the accident chain and prevent fatalities.

In many cases in Exley's accident analysis a factor like insufficient lights or violating thirds was not the primary cause of death or of the accident, but it was a factor in the accident. The fact that it appears in so many accident reports as primary, secondary or tertiary factors leads it to be recommended as one of the rules. A 25% occurrence in fatalities is significant.

Around here about half our fatalities seem to involve OOA or access-to-gas issues. In some cases this is like the woman who drowned in about 10 feet of water because she swam out with her valve closed and then dropped down and nobody noticed her drowning. In other cases there was entanglement problems, but insufficient gas supply probably led to the entanglement becoming fatal. In other cases there was a straightforwards classical OOA due to inattention or bad planning followed by a fatality. All of these I'd say come under the broader heading of divers not preserving their ability to breathe underwater -- which dramatically narrows their options and the timeframe they have to solve any other problems and survive.
 
"Rock Bottom" = "Minimum Air Reserve" = The amount of gas (air) that it would take to get you, and your buddy, safely to the surface doing a normal ascent profile with all the stops.

similar to "bingo fuel" in military aviation:

bingo fuel
(US) A prebriefed amount of fuel for an aircraft that would allow a safe return to the base of intended landing.

apparently this may also refer to an (OOEtOH) out-of-alcohol situation at a bar...
 
"Bingo" :D

sorry :blush:

I do want to thank you Lamont for providing me with an easily remembered/useful handle for calculating my rock bottom
 
Just converted the rock bottom post into a blog posting (better formatting, comments enabled, etc).

Old version is still accessible.

Fixed a few typos.

Added links to Peter's website + gas management info.

Not totally happy with the formatting on the new page, but its good enough to publish.
 
Lamont,

Your link gave me an understanding of gas volumes and my Nitrox course gave me an understanding of gas characteristics. Two of the foundation blocks of gas planning for me.
Reading your link gave me the tools to actually manipulate my gas plan and an understanding of what I needed, when, and why. It was a very important turning point for me as a thinking diver.

Thanks!
 
How does today's lack of gas planning help you understand a busy A and I section?
A quick look at the A and I section showed the following:

Yukon Incident.(cause not known.)
Police training exercise resulting in a death.
A health issue resulting in a death.
An exploding tank resulting in a death.
A non-disclosed issue in the Great Lakes resulting in a death.
Diver caught in rocks off Laguna resulting in a death.
Lost buddies resulting in a close call.
Elderly diver in Cayman, cause not disclosed, resulting in death.
A missing Cave Diver. Not actually a cave diver. No training. Possible hoax.
Downwelling resulting in close call in Bali.
Deniseegg's incident, health related, resulting in a close call.
Separation of a diver from a threesome in Oakland resulting in death. Dive computer showed he only used his air for 10 minutes in 60fsw. Cause not known.

It seems that few, if any of these accidents had anything to do with the gas planning/training that the victims received. The statistics don't support your assumption.

Don't get me wrong, gas planning is a key component of diving, and it surely is taught in the PADI AOW college course that I teach. (Its an 8 week long course).

On the other hand,
Boyle's Law is taught in basic OW and emphasized in the book, in the video, and by the Instructor. Paying attention to the SPG, staying close to buddy, communicating remaining air pressure, and not pushing limits are also emphasized. The result is a student who manages their gas by not letting it get too low.
Since it is recommended that new divers use 60 feet as a max depth, and it is recommended that they begin ascent with at least 800 psi, the planning is not far off average warm water Rock Bottom calculations for an AL80.

As much as I'd like to see more thorough OW training, the system seems to work.

That statement wasn't confined to only gas management. Look at your list objectively how much of it can be blamed on inadequate training?
 
That statement wasn't confined to only gas management. Look at your list objectively how much of it can be blamed on inadequate training?

What's amazing to me is how many divers I see who blatantly violate their training immediately after being certified. If you ask them why they are doing that, the answer you'll get back is something like "Oh, it's not really that dangerous, I can handle it."

Blaming people for ignoring their training, refusing to keep their skills up-to-date when they don't dive regularly, and so on, is really missing a huge part of the equation.

We tell our students repeatedly, for example, that if they don't dive regularly (every month or so) that they should come to the pool and do a quick skills review before going diving. It's a whole $30. But I can count on one hand how many do that over a typical year, even though the vast majority of our regular customers are vacation divers who admit to only diving on vacation, some of them doing so only every few years.

Assuming those incidents relate to poor training is a pretty large leap.
 
The Split from A&I Yukon thread: Gas Rules in OW Solo Dives thread has got me thinking about my own gas planning for OW dives with a buddy.

Gas planning hasn't been part of the course material for any of the courses that I've taken, and so I've been left to figure things out on my own. General rules such as "return to the boat with 500psi" haven't been particularly useful.

So, I'd like to get opinions on a particular profile.

Assuming the following - non-penetration wreck dive, wreck upright on a 130ft hard bottom, deck at 95 feet. Plan is to dive to the deck so we'll assume a maximum depth of 100 feet to allow a bit of wiggle room. The site has little or no tidal current. For the curious, the wreck I am using in this example is the HMCS Saskatchewan.

Diver is using a 3500psi 100cf tank with a 19cf pony. The diver's buddy is equipped similarly.

What is your gas plan for this dive and why?

pnw_diver,

The Rock Bottom gas management is a worst case scenario plan. The back on the boat with 500 PSI is the "you have a DM with you and he's hopefully doing proper gas management" plan. PADI doesn't really cover this topic at all.

Everyone has given good advice but I'd just like to add there are other factors. For example, what is the visibility like on the wreck? Is there a strong current? Not penetrating the wreck is one factor (you'd need less air because you are avoiding an overhead situation) but if the visibility is poor and there is a strong current, you might need to plan pulling yourself along a line to get back to the descent line.

Last deep dive I did was at 118 feet with a STRONG current which would either push you down to 160+ feet or out into the commercial shipping lanes. Experienced divers would drift off the wreck and knew where to go to avoid the freighters and not get pushed down to 160+ feet. Inexperienced divers would pull themselves to the stern of the wreck and back up the descent line. You could easily burn through 30 cu.ft. of air pulling against the current.

Additionally, the water temperature can make a difference. Colder water usually means plan the dive to be 10 feet deeper than it really is. Cold and poor visibility can also affect you psychologically: increased breathing, nervousness, etc.

Bottom line, think about all the things which could use up air. Most likely, there will be some you haven't thought of it you are a new diver. I tend to go to new sites with people who have been diving there for a while.

Maybe you want to ask people what uses up air and how quickly. Proper risk management would be, how quickly XXX uses air multiplied by the odds of it happening. Add up all these figures and that is how much air you need. For example, SAC rate of 0.6 cu.ft./minute at a depth of 100 feet is 2.4 cu.ft./minute. If we dive for 19 minutes we are looking at 45.6 cu.ft. The odds of this happening is 100% or 1.00. Therefore we can assume 2.4 * 1.00 * 19 = 45.6 cu.ft. Having a Great White Shark rip the valve off your tank would cause total loss of air. The odds of this happening in Lake Ontario is 0%. There we can assume 100 * 0.00 = 0. A free flow might use 25 cu.ft./minute. If you were diving the Arabia in Tobermory in May the odds of a free flow are fairly high for some regulators. Let's say historically you find 60% chance of free flow. Then you are looking at 25 * 0.6 = 15 cu.ft./minute.

This is all AVERAGE case. If you get WORST case + WORST case + WORST case happening on a dive, you are in trouble. To handle all worst case you need to add up all the reasonable, possible air consumptions * 1.00 change of happening.

Finally, what is your risk tolerance? Some people are willing to say, "that would never happen to me." The are okay with the risk that the air supply they have would not be adequate for certain emergency situations because they don't believe it would ever happen to them.

Personally, for deep, new, cold dives I find myself coming back on the boat with 40+ cu.ft. of air. So far I've never had an emergency situation. If I did, that 40+ could easily become a 10 cu.ft. (around 500 PSI on an AL80).
 

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