Fundies Pass/Fail

[TSandM]

As stated, you can earn a fail, provisional or pass rating. Fail means the instructor thinks you need more instructor time to pass. Provisional means you just need more practice. The instructor can set specific "homework" and can specify a time frame, but I believe standards allow you six months. (Some instructors will be flexible with this; others won't.) Once you have a rec pass, you can reevaluate for a tech upgrade at any time (this was recently confirmed on the GUE forums). You may or may not be charged for any of the reevaluations, at the instructor's discretion.

 

[deadbilly]

Wasn't really implying anything or suggesting you should give it up.

If you fail, learn from your failure and take it again.

Your question really sounded like 'hey I'm not a diver yet and I'm going to take Open Water, but if I fail can I take Rescue diver'.

The whole crawl before walking thing.

No worries. I can see how it looked that way. I plan to be prepared, and dive with folks who know and practice before I think of taking the class. The question was mostly hypothetical.

 

[ScubaFeenD]

Once you have a rec pass, you can reevaluate for a tech upgrade at any time (this was recently confirmed on the GUE forums). You may or may not be charged for any of the reevaluations, at the instructor's discretion.

Pheew, I'm glad you could confirm that for me. I knew I remembered reading that

 

[Anti-Hero]

No worries. I can see how it looked that way. I plan to be prepared, and dive with folks who know and practice before I think of taking the class. The question was mostly hypothetical.

If you do take fundies you're in the right place to do it. We've got some really great GUE instructors in the SC/Monterey/Norcal area.

 

[AndyNZ]

Thanks for the helpful responses. I was curious to know what someone's options were in the case they didn't pass the first time around. It seems to me, the class is expensive and if (if) I didn't pass, I'd like to know I could re-evaluate without taking it all over again.

The details will vary from instructor to instructor.

We have a GUE instructor on staff offering Fundies - our policy is that that you get one chance to "pass" if you don't pass first time.

As you've already said, the pass isn't the focus - it's whether you learn heaps.

If someone gets a provisional pass, they'll get some feedback on what they need to practice before coming back for re-evaluation. If they haven't practised (and improved) then additional re-evaluations are charged out at a daily rate. Same for a rec to tec upgrade.

 

[kathydee]

If you do take fundies you're in the right place to do it. We've got some really great GUE instructors in the SC/Monterey/Norcal area.

I agree! We are very fortunate to have some amazing GUE instructors here and a very large supportive community !

 

[johnkendall]

Thanks for the helpful responses. I was curious to know what someone's options were in the case they didn't pass the first time around. It seems to me, the class is expensive and if (if) I didn't pass, I'd like to know I could re-evaluate without taking it all over again.

If you get a Tech Pass then you can continue to Tech or Cave courses
If you get a Rec pass then you can continue with the further Rec classes, or practice and do an upgrade evaluation for a Tech Pass, there is no time limit on this
If you get a provisional then you need to take a re-evaluation in order to continue, there is a 6 month window before the provisional becomes a fail.
If you get a fail then you need to discuss your personal roadmap with your instructor. This might be additional training days, this might be retake the whole class, it depends on what the issues are.

HTH

John