Fun with Rebreathers

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I just spent the morning demoing Inspiration and Evolution rebreathers in the URI pool. Very cool experience!

I've long since finished graduate school at URI, but even though I am no longer a student, I've kept active with the URI research diving program because I enjoy it. URI's underwater archeology program is interested in exploring deeper wrecks so they are considering their options in terms of for deco diving and specifically whether to go with conventional scuba or rebreathers.

Well, it turns out that the dive safety office over at UConn, Jeff Godfrey is already doing this stuff in his dive program and he was nice enough to bring over 3 rebreathers (two Evolutions and one Inspiration), not to mention a conventional double 120 with stage bottle rig so divers could test out the "alternative". He gave us a 4 hour workshop introducing us to the theory of rebreathers, demoed putting one together and preparing it, and then we got to actually dive them in the pool. Clearly this isn't the full rebreather training, it is more like the "discover scuba" version of rebreather diving, but it was an awesome experience.

I was able to try both models. The thing that immediately feels a bit strange if you are accustomed to scuba is that when you inhale on a regulator you get that Darth Vader sounding shot of pressurized air. With a rebreather it is just normal inhaling and exhaling.

Buoyancy in a rebreather is a bit weird as well. Since you inhale and exhale into and out of the counterlung, your air volume stays constant while you breath (ie in scuba if you exhale you lose buoyancy as your lung volume drops, but not with a rebreather). The other interesting thing is that as you ascend the volume of air in the counterlung increases just like any other airspace so you need to get rid of the excess. The easiest way to do it is to just exhale from your nose instead of exhaling back into the loop through your mouth. As a scuba diver it is kind of a foreign idea but you get the hang of it all really quickly.

Huge thanks to Jeff for putting it all together for us.
 
Great opportunity and a real positive read. It is great to hear when people in the same fields share knowledge and help each other out for advancement of the fields! I am sure you will embrace the CCR world! Let us know how it works out for you and the rest of the team. Thanks for sharing!
 
Interesting thoughts about buoyancy and adding or removing air from the "counterlung" or loop?

On the ascent I understand the physics but it must be difficult to recognise when you have to release excess air. It's not as if you can feel the excess preasure in your lungs otherwise why would anybody get an embolism.

The oposite problem on descent. I assume you add air from a tank, but does that mess with your ppo2.

Some day I will need to do a course and try one out.
 
Victor,

On descent your PO2 is climbing, so Diluent is added to the loop to make up for volume as well as dilute the O2, so it sort of balances out. However, if you descend to quickly you can have a PO2 spike.

Also, I know on the units he tried there is an over-pressure relief valve set to 40mbar which is below the pressure in which your lungs would have a problem with. It has to be set in dive mode for it to work, which is counter clockwise...like a drysuit shoulder valve.

Hope this helps.

Also, I highly recommend trying a rebreather out like the OP did...it is a very cool experience. A little eerie at first, but well worth the time...even if you cant afford it right away, it's something to experience. My training will most likely be in the spring..still waiting on the dates. :) I'm a tad excited.


J
 
Victor,
You will have no problem knowing if you have to much gas in the loop on ascent, trust me.
I just let it get past the mouthpiece by relaxing my lips.
Pat B
 
On the ascent I understand the physics but it must be difficult to recognise when you have to release excess air. It's not as if you can feel the excess preasure in your lungs otherwise why would anybody get an embolism.

The oposite problem on descent. I assume you add air from a tank, but does that mess with your ppo2.

Well, clearly my experience was very limited, but in terms of knowing when to vent air from the counter-lung, it wasn't much different from knowing when to vent air from your BC or drysuit. In fact, the counterlung bladder is really not much different from a BC in appearance.

And yes, on descent as the volume drops you will inhale until you reach a point where the counterlung goes empty at which point the CCR injects more gas into the system from the tanks. You have 2 tanks, one of diluent gas (either air, nitrox, trimix or heliox) and one of pure O2. The CCR's computer is hooked up to O2 sensors and it adjusts the amount of diluent and pure O2 added to your breathing gas so that you maintain PO2 at the desired level.

Jeff did mention that you can get a PO2 spike if you drop fast and that he usually starts at a lower PO2 setpoint on the descent and then increases it after he gets deeper to account for this.
 
Also, I know on the units he tried there is an over-pressure relief valve set to 40mbar which is below the pressure in which your lungs would have a problem with. It has to be set in dive mode for it to work, which is counter clockwise...like a drysuit shoulder valve.

Hope this helps.

Also, I highly recommend trying a rebreather out like the OP did...it is a very cool experience. A little eerie at first, but well worth the time...even if you cant afford it right away, it's something to experience. My training will most likely be in the spring..still waiting on the dates. :) I'm a tad excited.


J
Good luck with the training!

Also, Jepuskar is correct. Both models have a relief valve as he describes.

And I agree with him completely, if you get a chance to test drive one of these things do it, even if you don't ever plan to buy one yourself. It is a really cool experience.
 
It sounds like you had fun Chris. Did you let Jeff know that you were a friend of mine?
 
It sounds like you had fun Chris. Did you let Jeff know that you were a friend of mine?

Sure did. I told him you said to say hello.
 
I hope to try one at the London show this spring, but it's only in a 5ft pool.
I doubt I will be able to feel these buoyancy problems, I might see if I can book a proper taster session with an instructor.

As a photographer I can see the fascination of diving without all these bubbles.

I am worried about the task loading of a CCR and a camera. I think I would keep the 2 apart until the CCR was second nature.
 

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