Full Face Mask Discussions

What is your current full face mask

  • AGA

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Poseidon Atmosphere

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • DSI EXO

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Neptune

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Scuba Pro

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Total voters
    23

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TX65

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As a Full Face Mask diver, I thought I would start a thread about using full face masks for those interested in this topic.

Here are a few things to talk about, maybe they will create a group for this like they have for rebreathers.

How long you have been diving full face masks
Why you started diving in them
What is your favoriate mask and why Include what other full face mask equipment you use or have used.
 
May as well start with me

Diving with full face equipment since 1985.

I started using them when I was a commercial diver in the oil industry - Scuba was a no no.

I currently use a Poseidon Atmosphere

I have used the AGA, Poseidon Atmosphere, EXO, DSI 18B Band Mask, DSI Superlite 17B helmet and DSI Superlite 27B helmet. I have test dived the Neptune and Scuba Pro Masks
 
Good idea TX...

I started diving an AGA back in the early 90's. It was the gray rubber positive pressure mask. I can't say my first impressions were all that good. Then I learned how to use one and what a difference that made. I now use the black silicone with a demand regulator. Much better choice for diving. The positive pressure wasn't really designed for diving in the first place, it was an SCBA feature. The mask is extremely well designed, comfortable, easy breathing and reliable. You can (provided you're trained) tear the regulator down to it's base components in a matter of a minute or so and reassemble it in a few more, with no tools. There are lots of reasons it's the standard of the industry for public safety and military diving. Now, off my soapbox...

There are three reasons (and sort of a fourth) to dive a full-face mask.

1) Environmental. Bad water, contaminated, cold, so on and so forth...

2) Physiological. Exposure to high PPO2, any time you may be concerned about the possibility of a diver going unconscious to TMJ, and even denture wearers that find it difficult to use a bite mouthpiece. I know of people that dive using a full-face mask that are epileptic or prone to seizures. Of course, the recommendation is that they don't dive, period, but...

3) Communications. With underwater communications, you need an air space to be able to talk clearly. A full-face mask is the best platform for underwater communications. Some FFM's are better than others. Those with an oral/nasal pocket rather than the nose and mouth separated give clearer communications. If you have either of the first two reasons to dive a FFM, then communications is a no-brainer add-on. Might as well, you have the capability. The safety factor that communications add to diving can't be overstated. This would be a topic in itself...

Then there is the sort of fourth reason, the neat and jee-whizzy factor. You know who you are... :mean:

Now, before we put everyone to sleep and having said all this, if you plan on getting and diving a full-face mask, seek out someone with experience with not just one brand of mask as TX had mentioned in an earlier post. Research the equipment; find out the differences, what makes one better than the other. Try them out before you spend your money and then learn how to use the equipment, if you can. Learn bailout and emergency procedures until it's second nature. Bet on it that when you need to bailout, you're gonna have a lot of tasks immediately at hand.

More to follow, I’m sure…
 
1) Started in 1993 at the suggestion of dive school instructors.

2) I like the Kirby Morgan M-48 or the AGA for most situations, for working dives I prefer the EXO.

3) FFM used: AGA, EXO and EXO-BR, M-48, Neptune, Mantis, SCUBA Pro. Just ordered a small Poseidon for students with smaller faces. I have not tried the mask yet though.

Bandmasks: KMB-18, KMB-10 (Navy MK-1)

Helmets: Navy MK-12, MK-21 (modified SL-17), SL-17B / K, SL-27, Miller-400, Gorski G2000SS

http://www.adp.fsu.edu/courses/FullFaceMask/index.html training and certification course

http://www.adp.fsu.edu/HistoryOfDiving/index.html info on some other masks and helmets

Good to see you guys on the board!!

Jeff Lane
 
I started out with the neptune II but after having trouble clearing and having to adjust the trim valve as well as reading all of the negative reviews on this forum I sold it and forked up the $750 for a Poseidon.
 
Hey, you can mark only 1 choice up there.
I currently have a Bandmask, AGA & a couple of the scarry-looking Cressi's that I slap on hookah for day-long dives in warm water.
Started off with the KMB-10 in the mid-late 70s, still dive the critter.
Folks that badmouth FFMs have obviously never tried to sleep while using normal scuba.:tease:
 
Bob,,,

Sorry for the choice limit. I wanted everyone to pick their current primary FF mask that they use with Scuba for rec purpose.
 
Have been putting my new rig together and here are some interesting FFM accessory products I found.

1. Oxycheq sells a 360 degree swivel for the Poseidon. In addition to bringing the hose closer to your body, this accessory also allows you to use standard LP scuba hoses. Will pay for itself the first time you buy another hose since Poseidon accessory hoses are higher priced. They also have models for the AGA.

2. Oxycheq also sells a manifold block with 2 inlets and 1 outlet. Mount it on your harness and just turn the knob 180 degrees to switch gas supplies. Simple way to have your primary and a pony / bailout online reducing the need to ditch your FFM in the event you run out of gas.

3. DSI has a version of the manifold block originally developed for their EXO mask. This unit has 2 inlets and 4 outlets. I am using this one mounted on my right shoulder strap with BC, Drysuit, FFM and backup 2nd stage connected. One inlet has a check / non return valve. The other has a scuba tank style valve. You can add another scuba valve in place of or between the checkvalve and your supply hose.

http://www.oxycheq.com

http://www.kmdsi.com
 
You did not happen to get a price on the oxycheck block did you?

Jeff Lane
 
Oxycheq shows a sticker price on their manifold block of $299.00. I paid $300 for the DSI block.
 

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