Friends of ours try to get Certified..blow out eardrums!

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Have'n heard any of the details yet but on their open water Dive at the lake this weekend one of our friends ruptured both eardrums and supposedly can NEVER dive again.

She is going to the specialist today but we have'nt heard back.

How does this happen?!?!?! im so bummed out for them. Nice couple, we were all going to plan a trip together:( :(
 
How does this happen? Have you been reading ScubaBoard? I'm amazed it doesn't happen daily.
 
scrapdizzy:
Have'n heard any of the details yet but on their open water Dive at the lake this weekend one of our friends ruptured both eardrums and supposedly can NEVER dive again.

She is going to the specialist today but we have'nt heard back.

How does this happen?!?!?! im so bummed out for them. Nice couple, we were all going to plan a trip together:( :(

Contrary to popular belief, ruptured eardrums are not that uncommon. Learning when not to descend is a hard lesson for some.

Tell your friend to get a second opinion on not diving again.

James
 
scrapdizzy:
Elaborate?

It does not take a large pressure differential to rupture an eardrum. A descent 10-20ft without clearing could do it easily. I read about people having uncontrolled or poor descents here all the time, in class and otherwise. I read about people having uncontrolled ascents here frequently.

From some of the class reports I've read here, I am amazed more divers aren't hurt.

I watched two divers a couple of months ago at a local diving spot. Husband and wife I presume, with an instructor. They were trying to descend down a line. Wife descended a bit and came back up. Husband was determined to do it. When he came back up he had blood in his mask. Site depth was 70ft max, instructor was about 25ft below the surface, when I was on ascent.

The next month, I saw 3 certified divers at another local site. All trying to descend into a cavern basin. The sides are VERY silty. One woman, lost control of her buyancy after riding the inflator and dumps like an elevator, and slid down the side of the basin. And a site known for about 200ft of vis, went to about 20. She and her friends proceeded to stand on the bottom of the basin, and then they proceeded to enter the cavern with 1 light between the three.

I have come to the conclusion that either instruction that these people is exceptionally poor, or they have totally forgotten what they were taught. Thus I am not surprised to hear about burst eardrums or other maladys that generally arise from a lack of buoyancy control.

I am sorry your friend got hurt. It's never pleasant. Sadly its all too common. I hope your friend is able to return to diving if they so choose, but I hope they gain better control of buoyancy before venturing outside the confines of a pool.
 
yea they did their pool dives and thn decided to go on vacation for some time and put off the rest of their OW until 5 weeks later. I figured they should have taken a refresher before heading to the lake. Too bad they did'nt.

Damn.
 
I have to agree with Perrone. As I assist with more and more classes it amazes me that there are not more of this type of injury. I see people so determined to get down that they are obviously in pain and have even had to grab them and the line and haul em up a few feet to alleviate it and then rap on their mask to get em to equalize more often. I've also seen other instructors come down to the lake with their groups give them gear and weights and with a minimum of explanation as to what is going to happen proceed to take these people down. Many times the instructor will have 4 or more and sometimes without a DM and try to take this whole group down. To hell with what standards say about how many are allowed per instructor what happens if you get two dropping like rocks and two shooting for the surface uncontrolled. A mess that's what. I have evn at times gone in with groups not from our shop and just "hung around" to make sure for my own peace of mind that no one got hurt. I even intervened in one situation and got thanked by the instructor whose DM just decided not to show up. I've been asked if I would like to dive with different groups, "since your buddy has not shown up yet", when what they really meant was "I might have taken on more than I should have under the circumstances and can use a little help". All because of basic things like not enough time spent in the pool on buoyancy issues. It is a shame about your friend and hopefully the specialist can give a better outlook but it all comes down to people being rushed through training in the interests of money and the pressure to turn out more divers. It can also be the fault of those who want to learn the fastest way possible because they only have so much time, I have to be ready by such and such, I have this to do, yada yada yada.
 
Once the eardrums have healed, and assuming they learn a little better technique for descent and clearing, there is no reason why they can't dive again.
 
TSandM:
Once the eardrums have healed, and assuming they learn a little better technique for descent and clearing, there is no reason why they can't dive again.

You're the medical moderator, but I can't see how you can say that without meeting them. There could be a medical reason for the difficulty in equalisation (unusually narrow eustachian tubes for instance) that would make trying diving again foolhardy. This may well not be the case, but making a definate statement like you have, when you're a doctor, may cause problems for the specialist trying to give sensible advise depending on the situation.

Just my 2 cents worth.

As for the friends of the original poster. I hope they heal quickly, and resolve whatever the reason was for the problem. All the best for their diving or non diving future.
 
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