Freediver missing in Eagle's Nest

[Dan]

I've never been checked for one. I'm am CERTAIN that if I had a pfo, that I'd have been bent at some point with some of the dives I've done.

Obviously you don’t have it. I would not bother to check it unless you get bent during normal NDL dives.

I know 2 divers learned that they have PFO only after got bent during normal NDL dives, not the other way around.

 

[glassbottom]

Obviously you don’t have it. I would not bother to check it unless you get bent during normal NDL dives.

I know 2 divers learned that they have PFO only after got bent during normal NDL dives, not the other way around.

Well theres the rub. I would also assume superlyte doesnt have one now. But was curious what the commercial procedures were back when he was doing commerical diving.

I know and dive with a guy that has one. He only does NDL dives now, but took a hit on a deco dive that ran completely normal. It was how he found out about his. He still does NDL dives regularly but no longer does any deco diving.

 

[aquacat8]

Dive outing among friends turns deadly Wednesday evening in Weeki Wachee
Very sad for his buddies! After reading more it really sounds like they were experienced and trained... Just a sad accident, and so sad for them to lose their friend!

I mean they were trained freedivers not trained cave divers.

 

[The Chairman]

Wow, and here's the problem:

But Marjane’s group wasn’t there for the caves, his friends said. They only wanted to free dive.

Whether they were 'there' for the cave or not, they were still in a cave and their training did not prepare them for that.

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[AfterDark]

I found this story today if it has been posted here already forgive me please.

New rules for Eagles Nest cave taking effect this summer may have saved diver

“There will be no diving at Eagles Nest unless you’re a certified cave diver and you have a permit to go there,” Muller said. “There will be swimming allowed but there will not be anything in between.”
You'll either be a swimmer or a fully certified cave diver with the proper certifications. Muller says these changes have been years in the making and will start being enforced around September.
It would take about 60 dives to become a certified cave diver with a permit and no one would be allowed to "free dive.”

 

[JohnnyC]

Eagles Nest has always been a bone of contention. People are stupid, and do stupid things. I'm afraid that despite new "rules," the only thing that will eventually happen is that it gets closed. Even with a guide system on private land like Diepolder, all it takes is one person to screw it up for everybody.

I have friends that dive there on the regular, I haven't yet. It's an incredible cave and I'd like to dive it one day, I'm just hoping I get the chance. I think unless they're willing to put a ranger there checking cars, eventually it will be closed. Sad that peoples own stupidity has such an effect.

 

[aquacat8]

True story: Once when I was very young I met an old man and I asked him: what’s the difference between now and when you were young? He said: well, we had more freedom! And I said: what do you mean? And he said, well, when I was young if there was a hole in the ground, if a kid was stupid enough to fall into it, then that was just a stupid kid! But nowadays they’d call the lawyers, and rope it off, and pretty soon no one would be allowed to play around there.

And another thing, says he: when I was young you could just move to another city and change your name and start a whole new life! And no one would be able to track you through numbers or credit cards or anything like that.

I had the strongest feeling that he’d done at least one if not both of these things.

 

[Johnoly]

..what’s the difference between now and when you were young? ....

Hit the " Like " button if you ever drank from a garden hose and lived ,,,instead of running inside for bottled water.

 

[Nick Steele]

Hit the " Like " button if you ever drank from a garden hose and lived ,,,instead of running inside for bottled water.

Hell im 26 and still drink from the hose at my girls parents house when cleaning fish/lobsters lol. I drink from a water pipe on the pier (freshwater dw) and I get weird looks all the time.

Even though I’m not old I remember knowing your friends were at a certain house just because thier bikes were outside not because you called them.

 

[CLoP]

It's Sunday afternoon and I'm bored so I'm reading old threads and saw this. Wow. That was insane even with a lanyard attached to the descent line. That bottleneck of a passageway would make rescue at depth very challenging. There was an incident at a freediving comp in Turkey a few months ago that lead us questioning who among our buddies would actually be capable of bringing up a blacked out diver at depths well more than 10 meters (neutral buoyancy point). It's one thing to escort an ascending freediver and watch for LMC (loss of motor control) signs but it's another thing to actually swim them up from depth. Swimming through a hole doing that is yet another thing.