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Trinigordo

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I am always honest with myself, or have I?

I have been diving with resort courses since about 1997, but in 2003 I decided I am going to finally take the time to finally get my certification and did the PADI Open Water. While I have only 14 dives logged, my plans have me all the way to Dive Master as soon as possible (already have my advanced cert in the works for the next time I am home). I am a firm believer in this whole training and experience thing, but I cannot help but feel confident as a diver as it is a passion of mine and has been since I was a little child and with uneventful dives through out my diving career compounding that confidence.

But when I was reading the Belize Tragedy thread in particular I became a little rattled because this could have easily been me, although I would not have tried to make the swim, knowing my limitations and all that. So the question I want answered is this, while we all know diving is a very serious thing and our lives are at stake every time we go down, I do not really subscribe to the over-cautious club in most respects and diving is no different. But I always assumed by using my knowledge and skills that none of this will ever happen to me. Am I right? Or do most divers have scary learning experiences like the uncontrolled ascent story? I just always assumed that these things will never happen to me and if they did I have enough knowledge to deal with it when they occur, is this true? Everyone I dive with agrees that I dive better than my experience would usually allow and this has fed my ego some, but I depend on my regular DM to decide when I am ready to take new steps, is this also a problem for me? I trust the DM in question implicitly and he has no recorded situations for me to second guess it, but as far as I know he is worthy of the trust I afford him. But I also find that these DM's in the caribbean will bend rules as far as they could without breaking them (like me diving in St. Lucia without my PADI card or any of my information, they just reluctantly took my word for it, then taking me down to a depth about 96 feet, I would like to say quickly, that this was no problem for me to handle, even though I am a bit green for the depth according to traditional views[I think? not too sure though about the traditional views on that depth and the experience needed for it] things like this make me question the level of trust these people deserve) So how much trust can I put in my regular DM(no reason what so ever to question the trust I have in him,but thats so far)?

I know experience and everything makes a huge difference in all these situations, so in sweeping generalisations could you please try and give me some answers to these concerns? Can I expect at least one situation where something goes drastically wrong and the only thing that will save me is my training and some luck?

These questions are more out of curiousity than fear, btw

Have a good one everyone,
Gordo
 
You have to try to break the dependence on your DM.
Even if you dive with one regularly keep trying to imagine - "and what if the DM suddenly disappeared?"
Have you been observing your route, doing your own navigation?
Could you find your own way back?
Have you been monitoring your own gas?
Or are you just blindly following?
From time to time things will go wrong and yes you will need your training and experience to stop things from escalating and getting out of hand.
 
I do monitor and try my best to get the navigation down and I wouldn't say I am dependant on my DM or following blindly, but I am not sure diving without one right now is the right idea. The diving buddy options I have available are all at the same level as me and don't yet have full gear sets yet. So the DM is the most convenient option we have to choose from.
 
The most dangerous part of diving is the trip getting to the dive site. Relax and continue learning how to dive.

Practice the XALER diving method and enjoy the weightless world.

Quit reading these stories and putting yourself in the picture. Do you do that with every traffic accident you see or read about? If you don't then why do it with diving. Every one of us has limitations we have to deal with.

Make your own decisions and don't wait for a DM to tell you it's OK. Rules get bent every day in every aspect of life and diving is not exempt. It is up to you to stay within your boundaries.

Rules and locks are for people who obey them and who are honest. Less than an hour ago I just got home from a 3-state pursuit of a wanted felon. Was he playing by the rules? Heck no he wasn't. Even with every body backed off he still was doing over 100mph through a 25mph zone on Halloween with kids all over the place. The chase started in Washington, went completely across Idaho and into Montana where we terminated and let Montana take over. Why did I bring this up? He's a DM.

Gary D.
 
Hold your computer monitor up in front of a mirror, see what it says :)
 
Just to make sure I understand something first...you were first (resort-)certified in 97 and from that point to now, you have 14 dives or do you have 14 dives since 2003?
In either case, and in my opinion, you should build up your experience, go on a liveaboard to do a lot of dives in a short time to boost your skills and from there, dive regularly... On a liveaboard you can do 14 dives in 4-5 days...

How often do you practice your skills and knowledge? Do you do everything automatically?
In all fairness though, this is something that not a lot of divers do; hanging on a safety stop doing OOA drills with your buddy, taking off/replacing fins/bcd/mask while neutrally bouyant (and horizontal) etc...

You say you trust your DMs and he/she will decide when you are ready for the next step - yet they let you dive without a cert card or any information - and you let them take you down to 96ft...(there is a contradiction here, no?)
You have to make your own decisions about your diving - you're the only that knows what you are ready and prepared for...
In the situation above, this is where I would stop trusting them, because they are not only bending the rules... If they had asked you what kind of dive you wanted, would you have said "Take me to 100ft!" If not, then you are probably not ready for it. No matter what your training is.
Of course, we extend our experience by diving in conditions we're not used to, but they need to be thought through and taken in small steps. You mentioned that your buddies are in the same situation as you; no equipment of your own etc...
I, for one, don't trust rental equipment very much and would probably not try to broaden my horizons in rented kit. I don't need more things that can go wrong during a dive than what is there already...
It goes back to planning dives and then executing the plan.

Take the dive you mentioned (unfortunately not a lot of details about it), if there were only the two of you in the water and something had happened to him (like the thread in the Acc & incident forum about the DM who had problems at 100ft), would you have known what to do? And then done it?

I am not patronizing you or trying to be aggressive here - though sometimes people think so. Just want you to think more about your own diving... G'luck!
 
If you want to be a diver you gotta dive. There must be some water near you that you can find a buddy to explore. That or take a lot more vacations. Until you do one of the above forget about going after divemaster and other than having done dives and collected a card you will not be advanced. Dives need not be deep dark or dangerous (other that the nature of the sport) to be fun and rewarding. Your dive history is far to dispersed to give you routine, muscle memory or confidence. If need be get some local instruction to jump start your diving and then dive, dive, dive. IMO that's the cold hard truth.

Pete

Pete
 
Slow down a little. Nothing wrong with being passionate about diving but build confidence and comfort over a period of time. Also would suggest being less dependent on your divemaster - learn from him/her but move on toward the goal of self-sufficiency. Over- dependence on DM will take you down the same road as the infamous "Casemanager". Occasional problems will occur under water (remember you have a couple silent and invisible dive buddies - Murphy and Wylie E. Coyote), but problems don't necessarily have to be scary if you are prepared for them.
 

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