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IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO SPILLS THE OIL AND KILLS THE OCEAN! IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO DUMPS THE TOXIC WASTE IN CANALS AND COVERS IT OVER. IT'S WRONG. If someone objects to drilling by Americans in the Gulf, it does not mean we support the Three Rivers Dam Project in China.
The Red, Green, Blue, or any other color Chinese are not drilling off the coast of Cuba. This is an internet myth. It's been repeated so many times in so many places people assume it's true and has been reported in traditional Medea as true, but it ain't.
I've heard that we have three centuries of oil off the coast and I've heard that we have two years. The truth is we will not know until we do test drilling.
The problem is that the more oil we find the less we search for alternatives.
If the blockade was dropped an American company would be drilling off Cuba.

You make a very good point, so why not confront the real problem in the Gulf of Mexico (a/k/a my back yard)--- not pollution from oil exploration, but the huge and growing "dead zone"(an area of total oxygen depletion) caused by Peanut farmers in Georgia and other farmer's (up stream from New Orleans) excesssive use of fertilizer and pesticides.
 
OIL SPILLS
More than 500 specialists are working to clean up 44 oil spills ranging from several hundred gallons to nearly 4 million gallons, the U.S. Coast Guard said in an assessment that goes far beyond initial reports of just two significant spills.

The report comes nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast, and reflects the fact that the Coast Guard and other agencies are able to only now tackle environmental problems since the search and rescue effort is winding down.

The Coast Guard estimates more than 7 million gallons of oil were spilled from industrial plants, storage depots and other facilities around southeast Louisiana.
 
Republican presidential hopeful John McCain’s proposal to lift a ban on offshore drilling riled some Black Floridians this week, who argued that such a plan would do nothing to ease their current pain at the gas pump.

The proposal also brought an outcry from presidential hopeful Barack Obama and state Democrats. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist reversed his earlier stance on drilling off the Florida coastline and decided to side with McCain, who has said his energy plan would only have a “psychological impact’’ on Americans.

According to the Energy Information Administration (EIA),
drilling would have no impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production until about 2030.
“It would be a relatively small effect, because it would take such a long time to bring those supplies on,” Guy Caruso, who heads the federal EIA, said Wednesday. “It doesn’t affect prices that much.”

Republicans push to lift drilling ban
The National Petroleum Council estimates that five billion barrels lie off Florida’s coast alone, while the Energy Information Administration suggests the number is closer to 16 billion barrels. Other estimates go as high as 21 billion barrels.

President Bush last week urged Congress to lift a decades-old ban on offshore oil drilling to reduce dependence on foreign imports and offset the high energy prices. McCain said states should be allowed to pursue energy exploration in waters near their coasts and get some of the royalty revenue.

Crist urged federal lawmakers last year to reject legislation, which they did, that would have allowed drilling as close as 45 miles off Florida’s beaches. He also supported the moratorium during his 2006 campaign for governor.

Pollution on both coasts?
The possible negative impact of offshore drilling on Florida’s marine industry and $65 billion in tourism is unknown since a 1981 congressional ban stops oil rigs within 125 miles of Florida’s coast. Its precious waters, a coastline of 1,197 statute miles and tidal shoreline of 2,276 statute miles, includes 663 miles of beaches and 11,000 miles of rivers, streams and waterways. Florida is home to the second largest area of fresh water in the U.S., Lake Okeechobee.

If the boundary for oil and gas drilling in the Gulf of Mexico moves within 125 miles of Florida, a broad swatch of beaches on both coasts would be at risk for pollution, oceanographers say.
Oil rigs in the eastern Gulf of Mexico would be affected by the powerful Loop Current, which circulates warm water from the Caribbean Sea up toward Louisiana, then sweeps it down through the Straits of Florida, around the Keys and up the Atlantic coast to join the Gulf Stream.

Pollution sucked into the Loop Current would flow south to the Florida Keys, then be pushed north along the state’s Atlantic coast.

“The beaches of Florida are like the mountains of Colorado. They are somewhat our defining feature, and anything that threatens to jeopardize those beaches raises great concerns,” said former Florida governor and U.S. senator Bob Graham, a Democrat.

Congresswoman: Big Oil benefits
“In an already tight economy, the last thing we need to do is endanger nearly one million jobs and the $65 billion tourism economy
,” said Congresswoman Corrine Brown, a Florida Democrat. “If he (Crist) is really concerned about Floridians, he wouldn’t support this risky proposal.”

Brown and the Florida Democratic congressional delegation issued a statement last week challenging Crist and McCain.

“Instead of calling for drilling just off th

e beaches of Florida, President Bush and Sen. McCain should join us in support of Democrats’ ‘Use It or Lose It’ legislation, which directs oil companies to use the 68 million already open acres before they build rigs just off our coastline.

“The oil companies have had every incentive to drill in these locations because they are not paying the royalties to American taxpayers, as they should. ‘Big Oil’ (major oil firms) interests have unfortunately been more important to this administration than the concerns of our neighbors. Now all Americans are paying the price.”

Giving Crist benefit of the doubt
High costs of gas and energy cause Hollywood resident Marilyn Ponte’s exasperation and frustration.

“I don’t know why they are even talking about offshore drilling as if that is going to help us. It won’t lower gas prices. That is what we need,” she told the Florida Courier.

But Rep. Darryl Rouson, a Democratic Florida state representative from St. Petersburg, wants to give Crist the benefit of the doubt.

“The governor has been a good governor when it comes to the environment and energy. I’m sure he made a considered and deliberate decision when he encouraged states’ rights with respect to offshore oil drilling,” Rouson told the Florida Courier.

“However, I will need more information before I can join him. My inclination is to preserve the status quo. The beaches and the tourism industry are critical to the Florida economy. We have to preserve our pristine beaches and protect our water and wildlife that thrive on our shores.”

‘Why not start now?’
Eric McDade of EKE Consultants and Environmental Professionals agrees with Crist.

“I think it’s a great idea. It’s hell of a lot better than begging foreign countries,” he told the Florida Courier. “The real issue is money. Who gets the money and who owns the particular rights to the oil they find? If I had any money, I would buy some of it myself. Why should we have to jump through hoops for us to survive when we have the resources right here?

But oil drilling itself is a toxic business. When rigs first drill into the ocean floor, the crews use fluids called “drilling muds” which include toxic substances including barium, chromium and arsenic. The Environmental Protection Agency found that such discharges into the eastern gulf would “introduce significant quantities of contaminants to these relatively pristine waters.”

“The areas they’re talking about drilling in aren’t where it is populated. Besides, they have a way to isolate where the runoff will go. Cofferdams are relatively new and they are expensive, but they encase the drill around the rig. Shoring outside the perimeter of where you’re drilling can go up to 500 square yards from the drill’s point of entry. It will take a minute, but why not start now?” McDade said.

One example: Exxon Valdez
The afteraffects of the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill into Alaska’s Prince William Sound are still being felt. The vessel spilled 10.8 million U.S. gallons of Prudhoe Bay crude oil into the sea, and the oil eventually covered 11,000 square miles of ocean. Then Exxon, now Exxon Mobil, was blamed for its slow cleanup response.

Almost 15 years after the spill, a team of scientists at the University of North Carolina found that the effects are lasting far longer than expected.

The team estimates some shoreline habitats may take up to 30 years to recover
. The region was a habitat for salmon, sea otters, seals, and seabirds.

“The Exxon Valdez is the horrific scene everyone pictures when they hear of offshore drilling. It is still fresh in people minds,” Miami Gardens resident Robert Ethan told the Florida Courier. “The amount of oil we can extract from offshore drilling can’t be refined to make gasoline because it isn’t the sweet crude they get from Saudi Arabia and we haven’t built any refineries to increase crude oil production in 30 years. We would be better off considering oil passé.”

Congresswoman Brown agrees. “Nearly 20 years after the Exxon Valdez oil spill we have yet to completely clean up Prince William Sound. Sometimes nature causes oil spills. Storms along the Gulf Coast in 2005 caused 124 oil spills in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico
.

“Hurricane Katrina caused a 233,000-gallon oil spill and Hurricane Rita worsened the damage with 508,000 gallons of oil spilled. Presently, cleanup methods for oil spills are incapable of removing more than a small fraction of the oil spilled,” she explained.
 
OIL SPILLS
More than 500 specialists are working to clean up 44 oil spills ranging from several hundred gallons to nearly 4 million gallons, the U.S. Coast Guard said in an assessment that goes far beyond initial reports of just two significant spills.

The report comes nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast, and reflects the fact that the Coast Guard and other agencies are able to only now tackle environmental problems since the search and rescue effort is winding down.

The Coast Guard estimates more than 7 million gallons of oil were spilled from industrial plants, storage depots and other facilities around southeast Louisiana.

Just in the gulf there are over 3000 oil rigs between Louisiana, Texas and Alabama. There are hundered if not thousands of of small and large oil related industries on shore and there were just 44 oil spills with the worst being on shore at the Murphy oil refinery in New Orleans East. 7 million gallons is the amount in one medium size oil storage tank of which there are thousands in south Louisiana. Also know that a minor reportable spill can be a quanity as small as one gallon. Was it good no but no, but it wasn't anywhere where near the disaster you imply it to be.
 
modern drilling pose nearly zero risk. You said, "The rigs are evecuated to protect the workers". So is there a risk or not?

So this is a *** for tat



Nothing to do with sorting out our dependence on a dwindling oil supply.

It would seem some people do not learn by past mistakes.

Exactly what "risk" are you referring to? The risk to human life from the storm or the rist of oilspills being caused by the storm. The risk to human life is a lot greater than the risk of an oil spill.

If General Motors put a hydrogen fueled car in the showrooms tomorrow that got 500 miles to the gallon where would you fill it up. Whatever the new form of energy might be it will take years to cover the country with the infatructure to support it. Do you plan on locking your car in the garage and walking until then.
 
Exactly what "risk" are you referring to? The risk to human life from the storm or the rist of oilspills being caused by the storm. The risk to human life is a lot greater than the risk of an oil spill.

If General Motors put a hydrogen fueled car in the showrooms tomorrow that got 500 miles to the gallon where would you fill it up. Whatever the new form of energy might be it will take years to cover the country with the infatructure to support it. Do you plan on locking your car in the garage and walking until then.

If there is risk of human life then it follows (at least to me) that there can be risk of damage to the rig its self.

Florida has some pristine shore line and as my last post said a thriving tourist industry now why would we want to risk jeopardizing that. Especially as,
1/ no one seems to know just exactly how much oil is out there.
2/ Along with the rigs comes the support industry for them. Sea ports getting larger and more busy, then the road traffic will increase to/from the ports.

I would not mind the rigs been seen on the horizon, its what comes with it, industry and the risk.

We have very little industry in Fl it is one of the few relatively unspoilt places left, thats why we have a lot of tourists (Divers). Lets not only keep what pristine conditions we have but try to improve on them (quantity)

First there was the wonderful fuel COAL and look what a mess that got us into, then we learned (somewhat) IMO we are going down the same path with oil.

We have a good idea why we have the dead spot in the Gulf, are we doing anything about it naaa.

I will pay the price that oil is costing and if the time comes when I can not afford it, then no I will not lock the car in the garage, I will sell it and catch a bus.
 

Your post contains nothing but quotes, which spells BS to me.

Bottom line: something needs to be done NOW. Off shore drilling is a start.

I'd rather start some where, then play the old thumb switch game.

Now is the time to wake up and smell the coffee. Stop playing the blame game.

I feel really great being an American and able to speak my mind that is not
buried in the sand or in that dark hole.:D
 
Your post contains nothing but quotes, which spells BS to me.

Bottom line: something needs to be done NOW. Off shore drilling is a start.

I'd rather start some where, then play the old thumb switch game.

Now is the time to wake up and smell the coffee. Stop playing the blame game.

I feel really great being an American and able to speak my mind that is not
buried in the sand or in that dark hole.:D



Yes there are quotes by a lot of intelligent people, what does your post contain besides what you think/want hot air?

Blame game? am blaming no one, we are all part of it like it or not.

So do you think only Americans can speak there mind and not have it buried somewhere?. If you do then I now understand where the term ugly American came from.
 
If General Motors put a hydrogen fueled car in the showrooms tomorrow that got 500 miles to the gallon where would you fill it up. Whatever the new form of energy might be it will take years to cover the country with the infatructure to support it. Do you plan on locking your car in the garage and walking until then.

amen to that! what do these guys think, that the millions upon millions of gas and diesel vehicles are just going to "vanish" once we do come up with an alternative?
 
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