Info Florida keys fatality 4-4-22

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[clownfishsydney]

Hard to see that this would be dive related.

 

[boulderjohn]

Hard to see that this would be dive related.

It really isn't, but when I look through the analyses of dive accidents in DAN reports, I see similar incidents profiled. When you look at dive fatality statistics over the years, the numbers include such incidents, including cases where people suffered heart attacks on the boat after the dive or when swimming to the descent point.

 

[tursiops]

It really isn't, but when I look through the analyses of dive accidents in DAN reports, I see similar incidents profiled. When you look at dive fatality statistics over the years, the numbers include such incidents, including cases where people suffered heart attacks on the boat after the dive or when swimming to the descent point.

It is all quite inconsistent. A heart attack on a golf course is not called a golfing accident.

 

[DandyDon]

It is all quite inconsistent. A heart attack on a golf course is not called a golfing accident.

Nor did the golfer experience multiple atmospheres in pressure changes, breathe thru possibly leaky regulators from pressurized gases of unknown origins, or any of several other effects possible from immersion. Why do you guys want to write this off as natural causes?

 

[tursiops]

Nor did the golfer experience multiple atmospheres in pressure changes, breathe thru possibly leaky regulators from pressurized gases of unknown origins, or any of several other effects possible from immersion. Why do you guys want to write this off as natural causes?

You must be a golfer.

 

[boulderjohn]

Nor did the golfer experience multiple atmospheres in pressure changes, breathe thru possibly leaky regulators from pressurized gases of unknown origins, or any of several other effects possible from immersion. Why do you guys want to write this off as natural causes?

The golfer may well have played in extremely hot conditions with inadequate hydration because the golf course did not provide drinking water along the way and the golfer did not bring an adequate supply on the assumption that such water would be provided. (This happened to me multiple times in Florida in the past few months.) A golfer taking a cart will still walk 3-4 miles in such conditions, and it can be much, much more if the course decides to limit carts to the cart path only.

In contrast, years ago ScubaBoard had several prominent posters (almost all gone now) who posted over and over and over again that all deaths related to scuba were the result of inferior instruction during OW classes, and that included heart attacks. Would that be over the top, or do you agree with that?

 

[DandyDon]

You must be a golfer.

The most boring game I ever tried. Nope, hate it. But I can think of ways that diving might have hastened his demise.

In contrast, years ago ScubaBoard had several prominent posters (almost all gone now) who posted over and over and over again that all deaths related to scuba were the result of inferior instruction during OW classes, and that included heart attacks. Would that be over the top, or do you agree with that?

Would I agree with those posters? Of course not. I don't remember them, but surely they were easily shut down.

I just had my third angiogram of the year. No problems in the chest, both legs fixed with stints, and I am so grateful for the improvements.

 

[Lorenzoid]

I would say the reason we record what at first appear to be purely medical incidents that occurred while someone is scuba diving under "diving accidents" is so we can better preserve the story (data) for analyzing whether there might in fact have been scuba diving-related factors that were not immediately apparent. If these events aren't recorded as being associated with a dive, the data will likely be lost forever. The golf world doesn't have a similar need to identify and analyze golf-specific accidents in hope they can improve golfing safety.

 

[johndiver999]

To categorize it one way or another without additional information, serves only to demonstrate an individuals personal bias.