thankfulforlife
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yes,shameful....and just exploitation,...and profit making....
fishing nets at twin rocks
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Dive_pa!
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Nooooo!!! This is sad news!!! ... any update?? 
shugar
Contributor
a recent post in facebook indicates that the jacks are STILL THERE
seems it was a school of juveniles that wandered out of the sanctuary and got nabbed. Mabini Tourism also "reports" that total haul was in the 70kg range and not 1 ton as originally reported...
i'm confused...
Jag
seems it was a school of juveniles that wandered out of the sanctuary and got nabbed. Mabini Tourism also "reports" that total haul was in the 70kg range and not 1 ton as originally reported...
i'm confused...
Jag
OP
kwhkg
Contributor
seems lots of people in FB think its ok kc fisherman were just feeding their families. there you go
thankfulforlife
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yes,there is always "the people are hungry and have no money",but remember that we pay money for these marine sanctuary's to be protected(maybe the fee's should go to locals to have a feed,as well as some patrol's that work)....
i have been diving in the philippines and have seen more than anywhere else in south east asia,(excepting thailand),the fish,especially the bigger fish,dissapearing so much in the last 4-5 years......thailand people are not growing hungry,they just have some kickin'ass fishing fleets......
anyways,there are many issues that are facing the world these days,over-population,greed the biggest ones.....
ocdiver1
Contributor
I've yet to dive Twin Rocks, but did have our boat drive over the site on Monday. No fishing boats, and it looked like there were no nets...at least to what me and my guide could see being above water.
End last month I was diving in Anilao. On the first day we dived Twin Rock (22nd, Sep) and saw a big school of jacks. So I guessed that is gone now.
During our last diving day (26th, Sep), we went back to Caban Cove for the second time to shoot a couple of clown frog fish that we saw during an earlier dive. When we arrived at the dive site, we saw fisherman already laid their net circling the dive site. We had to swim up over the net to get to the reef.
As a diver there only for a few days, I didn't really know what the local laws are. Is that the norm?
So sad.
During our last diving day (26th, Sep), we went back to Caban Cove for the second time to shoot a couple of clown frog fish that we saw during an earlier dive. When we arrived at the dive site, we saw fisherman already laid their net circling the dive site. We had to swim up over the net to get to the reef.
As a diver there only for a few days, I didn't really know what the local laws are. Is that the norm?
So sad.
I know that there is a law concerning fishing in the shorelines of Anilao. There is a required distance from shore that you are allowed to drop your nets. I have a fishing regulation booklet before, But I still have to look for it now to check on this regulation. It was given to me at the Bauan municipal when my friend was caught while spearfishing at Malahibong manok way back year 2000. In the booklet you can see the fishing regulation concerning the whole Mabini coastline. I think they STILL HAVE THOSE BOOKLETS IN THE MUNICIPAL HALL IN Bauan.
Cross020
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When i was just starting to dive, ive seen several fishing boat being shooed away by resorts and boatmen from dive boats. I think i saw this twice on my first dive trip to Anilao (2008).
In most cases where marine sanctuaries are declared, people tend to earn more from the diving than they used to earn from fishing. Is this true or is this just my misconception?
We are charged fees to dive these sites. If the sites aren't protected, what's the use of fees?
Joe Cool
Contributor
I am sharing this post in the Planet Dive website concerning the Jacks at Twin Rocks:
Posted 17 October 2012 (Twin Rocks Jacks « PlanetDive)
"Hi All,
Yesterday morning I spoke with Dencio Catienza He is one of the owners of
Planet
Dive, the resort that is in front of Twin Rocks Marine Sanctuary. He
said he had
just come out of the water (around 9 am), and had not seen any
jacks at the sanctuary.
I called him again yesterday afternoon, and he told
me that he still had no luck
sighting any jacks. He did three dives on
October 13, and three on October 14.
Yesterday morning, Iggy spoke with Gerard, a divemaster at Planet dive.
Gerard said
that what he knew was that 60-100 kilos of fish were taken. So we
hope that for
the jacks of Twin Rocks, all is not lost. Gerard said that the
total number of jacks
there is around 6000 kilos.
During the course of the day, I learned that it was the fishing community on
the
same shore as Planet Dive, Balanoi, who fished the jacks. They caught
them in front
of their town. They are located between Planet dive and
Mainit.
Last night, Joey Fullon, another owner of Planet Dive called me and we talked
about
the jacks. He said that the community in Balanoi did not do anything
illegal. If
there is indeed a fish spill-over from a sanctuary, then the fish
outside a sanctuary
can legally be fished in Anilao. Joey also said that
Planet Dive Resort works closely
with that community in Balanoi, and that the
community understands that the purpose
of the marine sanctuary is to create
more bounty for all. The community of Balanoi
also supplies this particular
resort with essentials. For a long time, there has
been a relationship and an
exchange of education between them.
Another comment from Joey Fullon is this: The community of Balanoi was within
their
rights to catch the fish in front of their town. On the other hand, no
one polices
how many divers can dive Twin Rocks at the same time. Planet Dive
does not shoo
away divers. What would divers from other resorts would say if
they did? Joey says
that on any given weekend for most of the day, there are
always eight boats above
Twin Rocks.
Apparently there is supposed to be a limit of twenty divers at a time. How
many
of us divers know this? I was unaware of this. I also wonder if Twin
Rocks will
ever be shut down to rest, like Tingloy? Certainly a dive site can
get stressed.
Joey says that the fish sometimes leave because of there are
too many divers in
the water.
Lory Tan said to me yesterday that if the jacks spill out of Twin Rocks, it
probably
means that they are a big enough aggregation to need to leave the
sanctuary to get
food.
There must be many reasons for this fish school to swim out of the sanctuary;
after
all they are wild animals who probably need a bigger area as
territory.
My husband Iggys question is this: If the relationship between the fishing
community
and Planet Dive is so good, why did they still knowingly catch the
fish? Joey says
they did it because it is their right to catch spillover.
When I researched sanctuary rules for Anilao last year, I was under the
mistaken
impression that marine sanctuary spillovers in Anilao could be
fished only with
lines, or with large-hole nets, and not fine mesh ones. The
ones they used on October
13 2012 in Balanoi town had 2-inch in diameter
holes. I thought that No Commercial
Fishing in Anilao meant line-fishing
only, or big-hole (4-inch in diameter) nets
only. I mistakenly thought
fishing in Anilao was for subsistence only, and not for
business. I was also under the mistaken impression that all dive sites are sanctuaries.
In October
2011, Iggy and I were at Bahura where we saw a fishing boat with fine
mesh
nets fishing a large number of queen triggers from the dive site. We were
surprised,
and asked them why they were fishing there. They told us it wasnt
illegal. So we
proceeded to Curbys where we could see the Bantay Dagat boat
hanging around the
dive boats there. The Bantay Diver (eheheh, Dagat) told us
that the fishing was
not illegal.
So as divers, should we educate ourselves on Anilaos rules? Should we also
make
ourselves aware of how the communities make money from the resorts? Is
it only through
dive passes? Does money and resources from tourists really
get to the people? Maybe
we need to make it our business to know these things
if we dive there. I dont think
there is anything wrong with increasing the
dive pass fee, IF the money is going
to the people of Anilao.
For whatever reason the fish left the sanctuary, those that are caught are
gone
forever. In the next few days, we shall see if some jacks come back. I
was told
by Joey that when there is a big tuna in the sanctuary, the fish do
hide. I hope
that they are just hiding.
Best to all,
Jeanne"
Posted 17 October 2012 (Twin Rocks Jacks « PlanetDive)
"Hi All,
Yesterday morning I spoke with Dencio Catienza He is one of the owners of
Planet
Dive, the resort that is in front of Twin Rocks Marine Sanctuary. He
said he had
just come out of the water (around 9 am), and had not seen any
jacks at the sanctuary.
I called him again yesterday afternoon, and he told
me that he still had no luck
sighting any jacks. He did three dives on
October 13, and three on October 14.
Yesterday morning, Iggy spoke with Gerard, a divemaster at Planet dive.
Gerard said
that what he knew was that 60-100 kilos of fish were taken. So we
hope that for
the jacks of Twin Rocks, all is not lost. Gerard said that the
total number of jacks
there is around 6000 kilos.
During the course of the day, I learned that it was the fishing community on
the
same shore as Planet Dive, Balanoi, who fished the jacks. They caught
them in front
of their town. They are located between Planet dive and
Mainit.
Last night, Joey Fullon, another owner of Planet Dive called me and we talked
about
the jacks. He said that the community in Balanoi did not do anything
illegal. If
there is indeed a fish spill-over from a sanctuary, then the fish
outside a sanctuary
can legally be fished in Anilao. Joey also said that
Planet Dive Resort works closely
with that community in Balanoi, and that the
community understands that the purpose
of the marine sanctuary is to create
more bounty for all. The community of Balanoi
also supplies this particular
resort with essentials. For a long time, there has
been a relationship and an
exchange of education between them.
Another comment from Joey Fullon is this: The community of Balanoi was within
their
rights to catch the fish in front of their town. On the other hand, no
one polices
how many divers can dive Twin Rocks at the same time. Planet Dive
does not shoo
away divers. What would divers from other resorts would say if
they did? Joey says
that on any given weekend for most of the day, there are
always eight boats above
Twin Rocks.
Apparently there is supposed to be a limit of twenty divers at a time. How
many
of us divers know this? I was unaware of this. I also wonder if Twin
Rocks will
ever be shut down to rest, like Tingloy? Certainly a dive site can
get stressed.
Joey says that the fish sometimes leave because of there are
too many divers in
the water.
Lory Tan said to me yesterday that if the jacks spill out of Twin Rocks, it
probably
means that they are a big enough aggregation to need to leave the
sanctuary to get
food.
There must be many reasons for this fish school to swim out of the sanctuary;
after
all they are wild animals who probably need a bigger area as
territory.
My husband Iggys question is this: If the relationship between the fishing
community
and Planet Dive is so good, why did they still knowingly catch the
fish? Joey says
they did it because it is their right to catch spillover.
When I researched sanctuary rules for Anilao last year, I was under the
mistaken
impression that marine sanctuary spillovers in Anilao could be
fished only with
lines, or with large-hole nets, and not fine mesh ones. The
ones they used on October
13 2012 in Balanoi town had 2-inch in diameter
holes. I thought that No Commercial
Fishing in Anilao meant line-fishing
only, or big-hole (4-inch in diameter) nets
only. I mistakenly thought
fishing in Anilao was for subsistence only, and not for
business. I was also under the mistaken impression that all dive sites are sanctuaries.
In October
2011, Iggy and I were at Bahura where we saw a fishing boat with fine
mesh
nets fishing a large number of queen triggers from the dive site. We were
surprised,
and asked them why they were fishing there. They told us it wasnt
illegal. So we
proceeded to Curbys where we could see the Bantay Dagat boat
hanging around the
dive boats there. The Bantay Diver (eheheh, Dagat) told us
that the fishing was
not illegal.
So as divers, should we educate ourselves on Anilaos rules? Should we also
make
ourselves aware of how the communities make money from the resorts? Is
it only through
dive passes? Does money and resources from tourists really
get to the people? Maybe
we need to make it our business to know these things
if we dive there. I dont think
there is anything wrong with increasing the
dive pass fee, IF the money is going
to the people of Anilao.
For whatever reason the fish left the sanctuary, those that are caught are
gone
forever. In the next few days, we shall see if some jacks come back. I
was told
by Joey that when there is a big tuna in the sanctuary, the fish do
hide. I hope
that they are just hiding.
Best to all,
Jeanne"
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