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MadisonK

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i still haven't figured out the where to post what question on this board so if this is in the wrong place please tell me. Also, the search function hasn't turned up too much for me.

I am planning on doing a dive on the Chester Polin in Gloucester, MA. I am a new diver with approx. 25 dives in the last two months. The deepest has been to 75'. The Polin is in 95'. There will be 6 of us diving from my boat. Two of the guys are 1000+ dives with multiple dives to this wreck. They will be leading us. I would like to know as much as I can before we do the dive and not depend on them for everything.

Here are my questions.

Any tips on anchoring over a wreck. Tips on descend/ascend lines? High tide will be at 11:12am that day. Slack tide is obviously preferable. How far on either side of the 11:12 can we dive safely.

What kind of bottom time can I expect?

Any other special considerations?

We will not be entering this wreck or anything else unsafe. The Polin is an oil barge and is apparently a relatively safe dive.
 
Concerning anchoring on this wreck - If you have 6 diving the wreck, make sure you take 7 to the site, and that person needs to know how to operate the boat. With no person monitoring the boat while you dive, you could end up actually living "Open Water" the movie. If the boat comes loose and drifts, BIG PROBLEM! The other option is to split the group and do two separate dives. My $.02 on that issue.

Barracuda2
 
MadisonK:
Any tips on anchoring over a wreck.
There is a mooring on the Polling, no anchoring needed. You may need permision to use it and I am not sure who owns the mooring.
MadisonK:
Tips on descend/ascend lines?
There is not much current. I had no problems useing the line as a refernce, but there is a very solid mooring line you can use.
MadisonK:
High tide will be at 11:12am that day. Slack tide is obviously preferable. How far on either side of the 11:12 can we dive safely.
Dousn't realy effect you much on this dive.
MadisonK:
What kind of bottom time can I expect?
The bottom is a somewhat chilly mid 40's temp. So depending on your thermal protection you can expect anywhere from a 20 minute bottom time to, useing nitrox 40-50 minutes.. even longer if your ready for deco, etc.
MadisonK:
Any other special considerations?
Have fun, make sure to do a good dive plan includeing gas planing. Make sure your confident that you could do this dive without any help from the experinced divers.
 
I want to echo very loudly what Barracuda2 said. Be sure there is someone left on the boat during the dive. I remember my first wreck dive. My buddy took me and another friend out for our first wreck dive. One guy stayed on board while two of us went down. As soon as we reached the wreck we found two other divers setting our anchor free (they were done diving and thought it was their anchor). That was my first wreck dive...all of 11 minutes because of these twits. Always have someone who can operate the boat left onboard during the dive.
 
we are planning on doing two groups of 3. I have a drysuit so the water temp should be OK. Any idea how I find out about the mooring?

Also - how do I guage my confidence level? I'm very comfortable in the water. I have excellent buoyancy control (if I do say so myself :eyebrow: ). I have very good gear including a dive computer from Suunto. I'm not a risk taker but I honestly don't know how to decide when I'm ready for the next step.

As always - Thank You for your help!
 
Call a Cape Ann Divers would be my guess.
 
MadisonK:
i still haven't figured out the where to post what question on this board so if this is in the wrong place please tell me. Also, the search function hasn't turned up too much for me.

I am planning on doing a dive on the Chester Polin in Gloucester, MA. I am a new diver with approx. 25 dives in the last two months. The deepest has been to 75'. The Polin is in 95'. There will be 6 of us diving from my boat. Two of the guys are 1000+ dives with multiple dives to this wreck. They will be leading us. I would like to know as much as I can before we do the dive and not depend on them for everything.

Here are my questions.

Any tips on anchoring over a wreck. Tips on descend/ascend lines? High tide will be at 11:12am that day. Slack tide is obviously preferable. How far on either side of the 11:12 can we dive safely.

What kind of bottom time can I expect?

Any other special considerations?

We will not be entering this wreck or anything else unsafe. The Polin is an oil barge and is apparently a relatively safe dive.

The Chester Poling has two moorings on each side. Both will be marked by white buoys with a red stripe around the middle. You don't need to ask anyone to use the moorings. They are maintained by a group of commercial charters. Of course, be a steward of the site and tie lines that snap, reattach buoys, etc. help out in anyway you can. Be polite if there are other boats out there, etc. If both moorings are occupied most boaters/charters will allow you to tie off to their boat. Cape Ann Divers goes out to this site more than anyone in this area. If you notice a problem with the mooring call them. They updated the mooring tackle at the beginning of this year in fact. The moorings are in great shape.

The Poling is approx. 95' to the sand and 75' to the top of the deck. My last dive on her was last Thursday night. We had a bottom temp of 50 degrees exactly. We had a super high tide (full moon) and were able to reach 100' to the sand.

Slack tide is usually best but it does not really matter for this site. You also can't get lost unless you swim away from the wreck. If you ascend the wrong mooring line you will only be about 70' from the correct one. If you have really experienced locals going with you I'm sure you're fine there. When I dive this at night, I attach a strobe to the mooring line for added safety. One side of the wreck looks "normal" and the other side looks like a beer can torn in half (jagged edges, etc.)

I'm not insulting you with the following, but from your questions I am a bit concerned about your comfort for this dive. What concerns me specifically is your question about expected bottom time. Are you diving air or Nitrox; tables or computer? What is your planned time and depth? Will the entire group be following the same plan? Has your diving experience been in New England or the tropics? Again, forgive me if I misunderstood your post above.

As for the Poling as a dive site, it's a classic Massachusetts wreck dive. It has real history and it's fascinating to see it with your own eyes, especially for the first time. Vis totally varies with conditions and really you can never predict it until you are down there. I have been on this site with 3' vis to days with 30' vis. Last Thursday we had great vis. There is a fair amount of fish net and monofilament line around this wreck. Whenever you are going around a wreck "cycle your head" as I describe it (look all around and above you in the direction you are heading) every few kicks to make sure you will see any net before you swim into it. The biggest sea life I have seen in NE has been at this site. Once I saw a giant fish (COD as I recall), a school of 7 Spiny Dogfish (local sharks), and the biggest lobster I have ever heard about, read about, or seen anywhere. Fortunately I have one buddy who can attest to this lobster! It was a night dive - I thought I was hallucinating. I looked away, blinked my eyes a few times, then pointed my light back at it. I grabbed my buddy and when his light hit it he jumped literally in the water. When we got to the surface he said he jumped because he thought it was a human body based on the distance between the claws. Crazy big lobster....I would estimate between 3-4' long with claws the size of a legal size sheet of paper. You would probably have to see it to believe me.

Anyway - fantastic site with lot's to see. Have a great dive but be sure you have a plan and feel comfortable with the conditions relative to your experience and comfort.

--Matt
 
Matt - thanks for the reply. Don't worry about insulting me - I usually bring it upon myself. I dive with a computer. I know how to read the tables but I haven't used them on any of the shallow dives we have done. I will use the dive plan function on the Suunto tonight. I dive air not nitrox. Thanks for the info on the mooring balls. I have seen the boats out there many times but I never noticed them tied up to moorings.

Like I said - we are diving with two very experienced divers. I feel pretty comfortable. The other 3 people that I am diving with and I are all planning on doing the Advanced PADI course within the next few weeks but we are all excited to try this dive. If you can think of any other warnings please don't hesitate. Thanks.
 
MadisonK:
Matt - thanks for the reply. Don't worry about insulting me - I usually bring it upon myself. I dive with a computer. I know how to read the tables but I haven't used them on any of the shallow dives we have done. I will use the dive plan function on the Suunto tonight. I dive air not nitrox. Thanks for the info on the mooring balls. I have seen the boats out there many times but I never noticed them tied up to moorings.

Like I said - we are diving with two very experienced divers. I feel pretty comfortable. The other 3 people that I am diving with and I are all planning on doing the Advanced PADI course within the next few weeks but we are all excited to try this dive. If you can think of any other warnings please don't hesitate. Thanks.

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Well, call me crazy...but, are you really planning on diving to 95' on an OW cert? You said your buddies are very experienced, but is there an instructor among them? That could lend credibility to the dive if so. I've been excited about the prospect of wreck diving myself. But, I am waiting until my experience and training catch up to my desire. We have some awesome wreck diving in the San Diego area, but I am purposely waiting until my buddy (my wife, and the love of my life) and I are both fully trained and comfortable with deep dives before going.

Safety first my friend.

Rich
 
Just a thought...

If you don't use the tables to plan your dives, how will you know when your computer is giving you bad data?

A shallow dive is very forgiving. A 95' dive ... not so much. Do you know your NDL at that depth? And what's your air consumption like? How long will your tank last you down there? Mine is crap, so I'd probably only get 15 minutes at that depth, less if there's any current to fight.

But then, I'm a rookie too, so what do I know?
 

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