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[cdiver2]

The government will meddle in anything it can. They will set up a burea, a division, and local offices, then they will need to seek additional funding to provide critical services.

I like the fact that one organization defines problem drinking as consuming more than 5 drinks at a time. If they changed the standard to more than 6 drinks they would proably lose 75% of their statistical problem drinker who consume a 6-pack.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness................

From personal experiance....drinking in England is mostly beer by the pint, so 5 pints = x packs?. I am not a drinker but I do believe that the UK beer is stronger than the US six pack variety. Also the public house hours are a LOT shorter than the US bars, so there is a lot of drinking in a very short time.
As a teen going out to bars with my peers, I was amazed that they would drink 8-12 pints a night. I would sit all night with a pint shandy (1/2 beer 1/2 seven up)

 

[MikeFerrara]

If that's the case then shouldn't they try to control things like,

- food- Maybe we need a food police, the obesity & diabetic epidemic costs tax dollars
- guns- too many shootings going on (killing or injury violates personal rights of the victims)
- promiscuity- STD's cost a lot in tax $'s to help those with advanced disease & teen pregnancies.

See where I'm going? There's no easy answer as how to rein in the ills of society, if there is any at all. Personal responsibility SHOULD be the answer, but there are too many people that are either too self absorbed to care or have none or very little concept of personal responsibility. In order to control all that, there would have to be very stringently enforced rules & laws in which then, there would be NO freedoms or rights to begin with. Basically to live as robots. Part of the price of living with freedoms is the risk of our rights being violated by another.

Yes...it's already illegal to harm someone else or their property. To do much more than that requires taking away the ability to do harm..control/punish before it's been done. LOL lock em up before they do it and they won't get the chance to do it.

I don't think being safe is all it's cracked up to be.

 

[MikeFerrara]

From personal experiance....drinking in England is mostly beer by the pint, so 5 pints = x packs?. I am not a drinker but I do believe that the UK beer is stronger than the US six pack variety. Also the public house hours are a LOT shorter than the US bars, so there is a lot of drinking in a very short time.
As a teen going out to bars with my peers, I was amazed that they would drink 8-12 pints a night. I would sit all night with a pint shandy (1/2 beer 1/2 seven up)

Reminds me of the Benny Hill skit where his wife complains that he's spending too much time in the pub and he responds by telling her that he's drinking as fast as he can.

 

[Fish_Whisperer]

I like Mayberry's Law, which seems to sum it up best: "Do all that you have agreed to, without encroaching on others or their property."

Freedom and personal, individual responsibility go hand-in-hand.

 

[tstormdiver]

I like Mayberry's Law, which seems to sum it up best: "Do all that you have agreed to, without encroaching on others or their property."

Freedom and personal, individual responsibility go hand-in-hand.

Exactly! Now if we can just get those who don't care or don't care to know to get with the program.....

 

[Fish_Whisperer]

I think the police just need to enforce the laws that are already in place. When a society descends from living by guidelines, and more and more laws are enacted, it's a sign (IMO) of a society that is on the decline.

 

[Hank49]

- food- Maybe we need a food police, the obesity & diabetic epidemic costs tax dollars

See where I'm going? .

I agree. When will it end? Did you see that the mayor of San Francisco wants to impose a tax on soft drinks to help battle obesity? Now the soft drink manufacturers are saying that if you do that, then why not tax the computer games because they cause so many people to sit on their couches and get fat too.

 

[cdiver2]

Reminds me of the Benny Hill skit where his wife complains that he's spending too much time in the pub and he responds by telling her that he's drinking as fast as he can.

You owe me a new keyboard

 

[cdiver2]

Sand Key Fla are trying to pass an ordinance where you can not have a dog or drink in your boat whilst off there beaches.

 

[MikeFerrara]

I agree. When will it end? Did you see that the mayor of San Francisco wants to impose a tax on soft drinks to help battle obesity? Now the soft drink manufacturers are saying that if you do that, then why not tax the computer games because they cause so many people to sit on their couches and get fat too.

We could put meters on the couch and tax couch time. We could do the do the same with the computer.

Heck put the sensors directly on the people so you can tax them or even imprison them if they don't behave correctly.

It all sounds easy enough but who makes sure that the government behaves. LOL