First reg, need to buy two, rec diver

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@rsingler I don't buy the servicing while abroad thing. The cost to have rush service done by a tech that you may or may not know or trust, and assuming they actually have the parts kits far exceeds any theoretical benefit of being able to have it done. Spend the extra money and buy a doubles set of regs and bring the first stage with you. With an adjustable wrench you can have it swapped over in less than 5 minutes and not miss a day of diving. If you play the get it serviced abroad BS you are guaranteed to lose the rest of the day that it fails plus the next day of diving if you don't rent in the interim. The cost of having that done is going to be ridiculous and not worth it.

The HOG case design was replaced several years ago and I don't know of any of the new cases having issues. Not to say that it doesn't happen, but I don't know of it.
 
No argument with two sets of regs. That's how I travel, too.
 
What is your budget? PM me and I can offer you some options.
 
My opinion: if you do not dive regularly, like at least 40 dives per year, to purchase one set is not financially favorable. Keep in mind the cost of servicing a reg set. I would buy EVERYTHING else - BCD/COMPUTOR,DSMB....... before a reg set.

When it comes to rentals, if you choose a good dive operation, reg sets should not be an issue for your kind of diving.
 
There is one advantage for new divers using regulators with unbalanced first and second stages (that still meet EU standards), besides being less expensive. High performance balanced regulators allow you to breathe a tank down to virtually empty with almost no warning.

I can confirm this. I did an experiment a while ago with two regulators. One was a new Aqualung Legend LX and the other was an Aqualung Aquarius. The Aquarius is an unbalanced piston regulator from 1974 that I got second hand when I first learned how to dive.

What I did with both is to breathe down an almost empty tank while I was watching TV. I didn't watch the SPG but I checked it when I first had the feeling that the regulator was getting hard to breathe.

To make a long story short the Aquarius gave me a lot of warning. It started breathing noticeably heavy at about 10 bar, which gave me about 10 more minutes (to be clear, on the sofa while watch TV, not during an actual dive) before I was really having to work at getting any more air out of the tank.

The Legend breathed totally normally until I got only one last breath from it. Then it just stopped. When I took the regulator off of the tank I could block the air stream coming out of the tank with my thumb. That's how low the pressure was.

Would like a name brand, I have no desire to dive in the cold and plan on staying in normal rec depths so I don't need the best however I don't want the cheapest, I want very good that fits my needs

Surprisingly the reactions on this thread have been very balanced. I normally see people recommending what they use and recommending against what they don't use.

I don't have a lot of experience with different brands of regulators. I currently own 4 or 5 Aqualung regulators (don't ask... it's an addiction), a couple of Apeks regulators and a Mares Fusion that the shop gave me because I work there and they like the instructors to use and recommend what they sell. I know for sure that I can recommend any of those because I've used them and I like them.

Outside of that I'm not so sure. In general terms I don't think I would recommend an unbalanced regulator despite what Akimbo said. My current regulators all have balanced first and 2nd stages and I like them a lot precisely because they breathe so well. Personally I choose for performance and just watch my gas supply instead of relying on the regulator to "let me know" when I should be paying attention..... YMMV.

R..
 
Do you live near a Divers-Supply?
 
Many on the board swear by Deep6.

Dude,

Deep6 has been on the market for what... 20 months since the DEMA 2015 announcement of their brand, and 12 or so months since deliveries to select 'trendsetters' in the industry. C'mon, "many on the board swear by Deep6"? They may produce a quality regulator, but there is no substantial track record of their products, service, warranty claims, recall practices, etc.

Lots of innovative dive gear brands have come and gone over the years: Farallon, DACOR, U.S. Divers. Rather than Beta testing for a startup, I would recommend that a newbie stay with a recognized, well known brand with a substantial track record of good customer service: ScubaPro, Aqualung, Mares, those are brands in which many on the board swear by.

EOR
 
For what it's worth I purchased my Son's aqualung legend LX off of eBay used. I was able to take advantage of the depreciation and get a complete regulator and octo set for about $400 after I sent it to my local dive shop to have serviced. I purchased mine new and paid full price because I didn't know better.
 
the reason I chose the aqualung legend is that it was locally supported by my dive shop and seems like it is a high quality regulator. It breathes very nicely. I have never gotten below 500psi so I can't speak to that.
 
Dude,

Deep6 has been on the market for what... 20 months since the DEMA 2015 announcement of their brand, and 12 or so months since deliveries to select 'trendsetters' in the industry. C'mon, "many on the board swear by Deep6"? They may produce a quality regulator, but there is no substantial track record of their products, service, warranty claims, recall practices, etc.

Lots of innovative dive gear brands have come and gone over the years: Farallon, DACOR, U.S. Divers. Rather than Beta testing for a startup, I would recommend that a newbie stay with a recognized, well known brand with a substantial track record of good customer service: ScubaPro, Aqualung, Mares, those are brands in which many on the board swear by.

EOR

that is true, but you have to remember that the regulator is functionally identical to the HOG D3/Zenith which Chris designed. The Deep6 has some incremental changes to the soft parts, but the guts of it are almost the same. They're also produced by ODS which is a massive regulator manufacturer with a well proven history.

I don't know of anyone who swears my Mares in this country that isn't a dealer... Nothing wrong with their regulators, but I don't know anyone in the US who swears by them. Aqualung and Scubapro have different histories, but the cost justification of purchasing them new isn't very good.
A comparable regulator to the Deep6 is the MK25/S600. New from Scubapro that is $770, not including octo, gauge, etc. Another S600 is $430, plus $180 for a 2 gauge console from them. Grand total of about $1400. You bought it all so the shop gave you 20% off, $1100. Aqualung doesn't make a comparable regulator, but the Legend is a similar $750 ish, same with Atomic M1, so pricing for a single tank is $1100-$1400 depending on how generous the shop is.

The equivalent package from Deep6 is $650. Essentially it's 2:1 on the regulators.

To maintain warranty on scubapro and aqualung you'll be spending at least $50/year on service *assuming parts for life, without pfl then it's easily $100/year*, vs. the Deep6 which has the first service for free outside of shipping, or truly free if you DIY. That adds to the advantage.
Going on, we have those of us that are required to DIY service our regs *technical/cave diving*, or those that don't have a trustworthy shop within reasonable driving distance *most everyone*, that choose to invest about $200 in the stuff required to DIY service a regulator. Scubapro and Aqualung both expressly forbid DIY service which will void any warranty you have, as well as having to go to the grey market to purchase parts and having to teach yourself to repair them.

They've already proven themselves on recalls/warranty work with the DIN retaining nut thing that got sent out a few months ago when they realized the machining tolerances weren't up to snuff which caused it to spit out o-rings, so that's a start.

Is saving that amount of money worth the "risk" that if something happens you have to replace it again? I think so, but I think the real risk of that is pretty low. People said the same about HOG close to 10 years ago when it came out, and we never really saw an issue. If this was a new regulator model from HOG which would have been the D3/Zenith 2.0, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's the same regulator, the same guy who designed it, the same manufacturer. It's now orange instead of red *a point of contention for me being an NC State alum and now living in Clemson country grrr*, but it's still the same regulator.... No different than Halcyon selling scubapro regulators right now either. If Halcyon sh!ts the bed, you can still use scubapro parts to service them. If Deep6 goes under, you can still use HOG D3/Zenith parts on it if you want, or buy direct from ODS, or a myriad of other places. At least these are using standard parts so if something happens like when Dacor got acquired you aren't up a sh!t creek with parts because they're all proprietary
 

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