Faking Logbook Entries Fact or Fiction?

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MikeFerrara:
I fear (I'm not really all that scared myself) that much of the (dare I say it?) recreational diving mentality is creeping it's way into technical diving as it, also, becomes big business. Not that I want it to be exclusive because that's not the way I mean it.

Then how DO you mean it? Break it down, Mike - exclusive doesn't mean snobbish - it means it EXCLUDES someone, which includes excluding those who lack the proper skills, or on some other legitimate basis.

Your marriage is exclusive - you exclude all the women in the world besides your wife when it comes to romantic interaction. Does that mean there's something wrong with all the other women in the world? NO. The biggest problem with maintaining valuable barriers to entry in today's world is that people can't separate exclusion from judgment of someone's worth as a human being. Exclusion isn't a bad thing. Your accountant is excluded from performing open heart surgery - that doesn't mean surgeons are better people than accountants.

If you want to insure that all tech divers (or all divers, for that matter) are competent, then you HAVE to exclude those who are unable or unwilling to achieve competence, and that's being exclusive. Leave the politically correct tiptoeing at the door and call a thing what it is.

I used to have a boss who was very portly. When people started the egalitarian rant about how bad barriers to entry were, implying that somebody not getting to participate in an activity they found desirable was some sort of gross injustice, he would say "I cannot be a belly dancer - this is not tragedy, it just is."

If someone wants to dive the Doria, or just dive, and is denied that because they can't swim, or because they won't accept a few challenges in training, why is that any more an injustice than the fact that I can't have my way with Katy Holmes just because I don't look like Tom Cruise or am unwilling to do what it takes to earn as much money as he does?
 
fairybasslet:
... It's like saying all car mechanics are thieves, all lawyers are dishonest, etc...

Yeah! That's right! It's the 99% of dishonest lawyers that give a bad name to the rest of them!
 
ZzzKing:
Yeah! That's right! It's the 99% of dishonest lawyers that give a bad name to the rest of them!

Yep, and the 99% of mechanics that charge you the standard repair price based on the book estimate of time to fix your vehicle rather than the actual time it takes.
 
Honest lawyers and space aliens have one thing in common. You always hear about them but no one ever sees them

Ooops, moderated post, time out for me :)
 
tedtim:
Yep, and the 99% of mechanics that charge you the standard repair price based on the book estimate of time to fix your vehicle rather than the actual time it takes.
WAAAAAAY off on a tangent here but... It might surprise people to know that this practice was actually designed to protect the consumer. The shop bills the same charge to you whether replacing your alternator takes the mechanic 45 minutes or an hour and a half. It sets a baseline that makes comparing different shop rates possible.
 
No problem Man;steam it! Get an old tea pot, get the water to steaming, be careful as you do it.Also, get a ladies metal pointed nail file, hold book over steam,with the natural way book would hang down. Let sit in steam a few seconds at a time. Miosture will begin to penetrate. Use the file in a downward stroking manner, starting at the outside edges, not up where pages are bound. Paper will begin to expand and the edges will begin to separate, gently feather the tip through the pages.wait a few seconds and repeat the process. you will begin to open the pages as the steam penetrates deeper into the stuck pages. Go slow, dont try to rush the process. when done, the pages will be a little wrinkeled, you can low steam iron them and recover your log book.When ironing, place a piece of paper between each page as you Iron it.Good luck....Cpt. Tom
 

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