Faber Tanks

[Maule]

Local shop has Faber FX 100 HP steel tanks for $299.95 and Faber 100 HP steel tanks for $309.95. What is the difference between the FX 100 and the 100? Here is a link to the page I am looking at. I asked the person working that day and he didn't know.

Tanks

 

[krawlings]

HERE IS SOME SPEC. CHARTS SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE. As far as I can see it is there Buoyancy characteristics
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[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Description[/FONT][/TH]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X-Series 65[/FONT][/TH]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X-Series 80[/FONT][/TH]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X-Series 100[/FONT][/TH]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X-Series 120[/FONT][/TH]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X-Series 119[/FONT][/TH]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X-Series 130[/FONT][/TH]
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[TR="bgcolor: #D9D9D9"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Model[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X7-65[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X7-80[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X7-100[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X7-120[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X8-119[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]X8-130[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E7E7E7"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Service
Pressure[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]3442 psi[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]3442 psi[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]3442 psi[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]3442 psi[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]3442 psi[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]3442 psi[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #D9D9D9"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]True
Capacity[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]66.4 cu ft[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]81.0 cu ft[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]99.5 cu ft[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]120.6 cu ft[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]123.0 cu ft[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]131.4 cu ft[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E7E7E7"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Buoyancy*
FULL[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 8.7 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 9.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 10.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 11.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 10.9 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 11.7 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #D9D9D9"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Buoyancy*
EMPTY[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 3.9 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 3.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 2.5 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 2.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 2.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]- 2.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E7E7E7"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Weight
EMPTY[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]25.1 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]29.9 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]33.1 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]39.7 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]42.0 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]44.7 lbs.[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #D9D9D9"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Outside
Diameter[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]7.25 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]7.25 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]7.25 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]7.25 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]8.00 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]8.00 in.[/FONT][/TD]
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[TR="bgcolor: #E7E7E7"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Cylinder
Length[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]16.7 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]19.8 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]22.7 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]27.7 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]23.9 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]25.3 in.[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #D9D9D9"]
[TH][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]Valve
Included[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]VA100[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]VA200[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]VA200[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]VA200[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]VA200[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]VA200[/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #D9D9D9"]
[TH="align: center"][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]REE
[/FONT][/TH]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]46.6 cc[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]59.5 cc[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]75.3 cc[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]94 cc[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]92 cc[/FONT][/TD]
[TD][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]100 cc[/FONT][/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 7"][FONT=Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif]*in sea water with valve[/FONT]


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[TABLE="class: fullBorderTable"]
[TR]
[TD="class: softbold, colspan: 8, align: center"]STEEL CYLINDERS*[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Manufacturer & Nominal Capacity[/TD]
[TD]Service pressure, psi[/TD]
[TD]Actual air capacity, cu. Ft. (at +10%)[/TD]
[TD]Outer diameter, in[/TD]
[TD]Length without valve, in[/TD]
[TD]Empty weight, lbs[/TD]
[TD]Buoyancy Empty, lbs (w/valve)
[/TD]
[TD]Buoyancy Full, lbs (w/valve)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 13[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD] 3.9[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]5.9[/TD]
[TD]-2.25[/TD]
[TD] -3.31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 20[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD] 3.9[/TD]
[TD]19.5[/TD]
[TD]7.5[/TD]
[TD]-1.5[/TD]
[TD] -3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Heiser 45[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]5.5[/TD]
[TD]25.79[/TD]
[TD]20.3[/TD]
[TD]0.8[/TD]
[TD]-2.575[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST LP 45[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]5.5[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]-0.5[/TD]
[TD]-3.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 45[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]5.5[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]17.6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]-4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 50[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]5.5[/TD]
[TD]25.2[/TD]
[TD]19.92[/TD]
[TD]-1.5[/TD]
[TD]-4.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 66[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]-1.67[/TD]
[TD]-5.15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST 65[/TD]
[TD]3500[/TD]
[TD]67[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]16.75[/TD]
[TD]26.2[/TD]
[TD]-1.5[/TD]
[TD]-6.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST MP 72[/TD]
[TD]3300[/TD]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]6.9[/TD]
[TD]20.75[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]-6[/TD]
[TD]-11.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Faber 72[/TD]
[TD]3000+10%[/TD]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]6.75[/TD]
[TD]20.5[/TD]
[TD]28.7[/TD]
[TD]-3.7[/TD]
[TD]-8.45[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Faber 80[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]78[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]-1.7[/TD]
[TD]-7.55[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Faber 80[/TD]
[TD]3180 +10%[/TD]
[TD]80[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]19.88[/TD]
[TD]32.5[/TD]
[TD]-7.22[/TD]
[TD]-13.22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST E7-80[/TD]
[TD]3442 PSI[/TD]
[TD]80[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]-2.5[/TD]
[TD]-8.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST LP-80[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]80.6[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]-1[/TD]
[TD]-7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST 80[/TD]
[TD]3500[/TD]
[TD]82[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]19.75[/TD]
[TD]28.6[/TD]
[TD]-3.3[/TD]
[TD]-9.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 85[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]85[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]-6.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Faber 95[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]95[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]23.8[/TD]
[TD]37.2[/TD]
[TD]-1.2[/TD]
[TD]-8.325[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST 95[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]96.6[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]24.75[/TD]
[TD]43.8[/TD]
[TD]-3.3[/TD]
[TD]-10.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 98[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]-7.73[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Faber 100[/TD]
[TD]3180 +10%[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]24.01[/TD]
[TD]38.7[/TD]
[TD]-7.26[/TD]
[TD]-14.76[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST E7-100[/TD]
[TD]3442 PSI[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]24.12[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]-1[/TD]
[TD]-8.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST 100[/TD]
[TD]3500[/TD]
[TD]102[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]23.94[/TD]
[TD]34.1[/TD]
[TD]-1.3[/TD]
[TD]-8.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Heiser 104[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]104[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]27.36[/TD]
[TD]47.4[/TD]
[TD]-7.46[/TD]
[TD]-15.26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST 104[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]106.2[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]26.88[/TD]
[TD]46.4[/TD]
[TD]-3.3[/TD]
[TD]-11.27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 108 (112)[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]112[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD]-1[/TD]
[TD]-8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST E8-119[/TD]
[TD]3442 PSI[/TD]
[TD]119[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD]-2[/TD]
[TD]-10.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Heiser 120[/TD]
[TD]3190[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]8.03[/TD]
[TD]25.8[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]-17.82[/TD]
[TD]-26.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Faber 120[/TD]
[TD]3180 +10%[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]28.64[/TD]
[TD]48.3[/TD]
[TD]-7.22[/TD]
[TD]-16.22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST E7-120[/TD]
[TD]3442 PSI[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]28.25[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]-10.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST 120[/TD]
[TD]3500[/TD]
[TD]122.5[/TD]
[TD]7.25[/TD]
[TD]27.87[/TD]
[TD]39.2[/TD]
[TD]-1.3[/TD]
[TD]-10.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST 120[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]122.5[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]29.37[/TD]
[TD]51.3[/TD]
[TD]-1.7[/TD]
[TD]-10.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 121 (125)[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]125[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]-9.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PST E8-130[/TD]
[TD]3442 PSI[/TD]
[TD]130[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]26.12[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]-1[/TD]
[TD]-10.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]OMS 135 (131)[/TD]
[TD]2400 +10%[/TD]
[TD]131[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]30.7[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]0.75[/TD]
[TD]-10.31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Heiser 140[/TD]
[TD]3190[/TD]
[TD]140[/TD]
[TD]8.03[/TD]
[TD]29.9[/TD]
[TD]63[/TD]
[TD]-18.04[/TD]
[TD]-28.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]E8-149[/TD]
[TD]3442 PSI[/TD]
[TD]149[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]29.37[/TD]
[TD]47.5[/TD]
[TD]-1.7[/TD]
[TD]-12.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Heiser 190[/TD]
[TD]4400[/TD]
[TD]190[/TD]
[TD]8.03[/TD]
[TD]31.3[/TD]
[TD]87[/TD]
[TD]-46.86[/TD]
[TD]-62.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style1, colspan: 8"]Copyright 1999, 2004 and 2010 Huron Scuba, Snorkel and Adventure Travel, Inc.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
*Empty weights do not include valves (except Pressed Steel and OMS), which would add 1.5 - 2.5 lbs, but buoyancy figures do.

 

[Maule]

I do appreciate you responding, but...it didn't help. I only see 1 Faber 100 listed on that chart. The X7 tanks you listed at top are the XS Scuba tanks and are not the faber tanks.

 

[krawlings]

The Faber is on the second chart under it
I cut and pasted it out here

[TABLE="class: cms_table_fullBorderTable"]
[TR]
[TD]nal Capacity[/TD]
[TD]Service pressure, psi[/TD]
[TD]Actual air capacity, cu. Ft. (at +10%)[/TD]
[TD]Outer diameter, in[/TD]
[TD]Length without valve, in[/TD]
[TD]Empty weight, lbs[/TD]
[TD]Buoyancy Empty, lbs (w/valve)[/TD]
[TD]Buoyancy Full, lbs (w/valve)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]fABER100
[/TD]
[TD]3180 +10%
[/TD]
[TD]100
[/TD]
[TD] 7.25
[/TD]
[TD]24.1
[/TD]
[TD]38.7
[/TD]
[TD]-7.26
[/TD]
[TD] -14.76
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FX100
[/TD]
[TD]3442
[/TD]
[TD]99.5
[/TD]
[TD] 7.25
[/TD]
[TD]22.7
[/TD]
[TD]33.1
[/TD]
[TD]-2.5
[/TD]
[TD] -10.0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[tbone1004]

if the service pressures are the same, just buy whatever the newer birthday is, if the service pressure is the 3180+, then unless you are diving single tanks in a drysuit or 7mm farmer john for cold water, I'd get the FX series

 

[drinksfromtap]

I have a 3180+ Faber HP120; if I were buying again and had a choice between the 3180+ and the FX series (3442), I'd have gone with the FX because it's lighter overall and a little closer to neutrally buoyant when empty. The other nice thing about the 3442 is that you don't have to worry about the +10% - when I first got my tank I had a little ritual for awhile with one of the guys at an LDS where we would talk through the plus rating and the fill pressure in order to get the 3498 psi fill (allowed with the + rating) vs. a 3180 psi fill (what's actually stamped on the cylinder).

 

[Maule]

Thanks for all input, I now understand the difference and have decided the FX is the way to go!

 

[NORTHEAST]

I also just picked up two hp fx 120's. Great tanks. Born date 05

 

[Water Boy76]

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