Bill_PNW_Diver
Contributor
I've been diving for a couple of years now, but always rented equipment and now want to buy my own. I've noticed that finding substantive reviews on equipment is difficult. Usually its just marketing hype or very superficial comments.
I've also noticed that when in-depth equipment reviews that aren't 100% supportive are posted on boards and websites, it seems to generate an attack-dog response from the OEMs. Scott Zeagle is one example, who seems very aggressive in defending his products, regardless of issues. In fairness, his products generally get very good reviews, and I'm personally interested in his Stilletto BC. It isn't my express intent to single him out, but several of his responses to postings on here and other websites have really been nuclear in nature.
I've also determined that there is complete OEM control over product pricing - no seasonal sales, no discounts for large total sales - nothing at all except on discontinued merchandise that's been approved by OEMs, or accessory items such as clothing, luggage, etc. I'm all for capitalism, but that's not capitalism, that's a cartel. The overwhelming majority of current major products (BCs, regs/octos, gauges/computers) are not available anywhere at prices other than what the OEM has set.
Yes, I'm aware of what specialty sports equipment cost - I ski (both kinds), shoot/hunt, golf, have motorcycles (both kinds), camp/hike and own a ton of equipment. But I can always find some kind of deal on what I want if I look hard enough.
The total price control on scuba equipment has kept me from buying my own so far. I'm just wondering what the marketplace perspective is on these issues?
PS - this is my second post on this subject (I posted yesterday) and the first thread never showed up on the board. Hmmm.
The dive gear industry is definately a strange marketplace.
I, like you, am new to this sport and shopping for gear. I also am into many sports and can be classified as a "gearhead" and spend around $10k a year on sporting activities and gear.
So this is what I've found so far...
There are some manufactures (like Aqualung and their associated brands) that mandate the prices that their dealers can sell their products and the discounts they are allowed to give. They also restrict or ban internet sales. Ive been told that this is in an effort to control the market place and support their local vendors. This may sound noble to some, but on the other hand "through the back door" they provide gear to on-line retailers like LeisurePro who sell it at discounts that your local dive shop can't match due to the manufacturers restrictions. I am a strong believer in the free market so although some of their gear may be top rate I personally avoid purchasing from these manufacturers out of principal.
Most other manufacturers (like Zeagle) support the free market and within reason allow their vendors to sell their gear as they wish. They also support this on-line community which is appreciated.
My advice would be to
Use resources like Scubaboard, on-line product reviews, etc. to figure out the gear that meets your diving requirements.
Check what gear is available locally or at your LDS. You need to have your service done yearly and it's important to be able to get it done close to you.
As for pricing I check on line but always give my LDS the chance to bring their price down. Unless youre buying gear from a price controlling manufacturer, they will usually work with you.