was not sure what this was all about - I guess I need to run at home where my PC has a soundcard.....
Jonathan
Jonathan
Enjoy the flight...we're packing......
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That works for me.
I suppose there is some room for kinder and gentler somewhere....just not with me. Being a police officer, I never leave home without my version of my American Express card (usually a Colt 1911 variant of some sort or one of my Glocks). You will never hear my name and the word "victim" used in the same sentence. Unless Im teaching some dirtball what it feels like to be a victim :mean:
divrnr
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Why don't they just give the pilots tazers... no decompression at 36,000 feet... hmmmmm...
clive francis
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scuberd once bubbled...
just goes to prove that an armed society is a polite society
how can this be?
your society is armed and you have numerous shootings, robberies with guns etc. etc.
being armed doesn't make you polite, you have to be polite in the first place.
you also have to consider the fact that you may (and this has probably happened more times than people would like to admit) be shot with your own weapon!
Sorry, old boy, you're ignorance is showing again.
Our society is not armed. Certain segments of our society are armed. Unfortunately, its the wrong segment.
Consider this. Your typical criminal animal knows that the person he is about to rob is probably not carrying. There is very little risk because the animal has the weapon (gun, knife or whatever).
Now consider what would happen if the animal thought that there was a significant chance that the person he was about to rob was carrying and was trained to use it. I respectfully suggest that he might reconsider.
You've got it backwards. Being armed doesn't make prople polite. Knowing that other people are armed helps reinforce politeness in those segments of society that need a little reminder that they can be turned into fertilizer if they get out of line.
You're last statement is nothing more than farm animal stupid. When weapons are handled properly, you don't shoot yourself because you know how to handle them safely. Like diving, those safety procedures need to become second nature.
If you're talking about getting shot with your own weapon during an assault on your person or property, that doesn't fly either. You need to stay aware of your surroundings so that the subhumans never have a chance to get close enough to get your weapon. That doesn't require much more than looking around and being situationally aware.
In the example I gave a few posts ago (defending myself and my wife from mugging through the credible threat of lethal force), I recognized an unsavory person approaching more than one block away (remember that people generally don't get mugged when they are in a crowd). I alerted my wife and evaluated the situation. We crossed the street and so did he. He looked around furtively, then fixed on us and continued to approach at an increasing pace. I drew and kept it out of sight (my holster is a deep concealment model and I was wearing an overcoat). When he got to within 20 feet, we stopped and I challenged him verbally. He demanded money and moved toward my wife. I brought my weapon up from under my coat, drew a bead on his chest and instructed him (in my best command voice) to put his hands up and back away. My wife also drew and began scanning for his friends. She covered me while I had him empty his pockets and kick them towards me. He had a hunting knife, which I broke against the curb, and a welfare card, which somehow got lost, oops. He wet himself and ran off. I didn't shoot him because he was no longer a threat. I didn't chase him because that would not be smart.
The result: Mugging averted, possible assault averted, possible rape averted, possible murder averted, one scumbag candidate for a pine box scared and driven off.
What would you have done? Pee'd your pants, given him your money and hoped that you had succeeded in buying your freedom?
There was never any chance of being shot with my own weapon because he never got close enough to try. Rest assured that one step toward me would have resulted in three loud bangs and a free trip to the morgue. Like most bullies, however, he backed off when confronted by a superior force.
If a criminal animal does get too close, you're potentially scr*wed. In that case, don't telegraph that you're carrying, follow instructions and wait for an appropriate opportunity to attempt a disarm/draw/neutralize. That's part of the reason I carry defensive aerosol spray and a knife in the same pocket where most men carry their cash. Scumbag thinks I'm going for the cash, then gets a faceful of mace, followed up by three loud bangs and a hot reload. Alternatively, while he's writhing around on the ground, a quick introduciton of my blade to his throat solves the problem quietly.
So once again, I ask you. What would you do if you were walking down the street with your family and a couple of thugs approached. You attempt to evade, they follow, corner, draw knives and threaten your wife and baby. They are acting irrationally and it doesn't appear that their desires are limited to money. You have 0.5 seconds to decide.
Like all good americans -- KILL KILL KILL
then disarm the wounded and call the police
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