Ear problems after dives

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Every dive trip results in a congested feeling in my ears especially the left side. It usually takes about 1 month for them to return to normal. During that month, I have difficulty hearing, a hollow sound when I talk, popping sounds when I swallow, and a throbbing sensation with each pulse beat. I have no trouble equalizing during the dive, but after the first two or three dives of the trip, my nose bleeds. ENT's treat me with decongestants or like I have a sinus infection. The treatment doesn't seem to speed up the recovery period. Does anyone else have similar problems, and any ideas as to the phsiology of what's happening to me? Thanks
 
Here's a post i posted in a different thread, but sounds similar to your own problem.

When I first started diving, my ears gave me the most unbelievable hassle. Muffled after diving, ringing the next morning, sore later in the afternoon, took a week even more to get back normal. Eventually I had enough and went to an ENT specialist. You wouldn't believe how blocked my ears wear. And without being to gross- you could have planted potatoes in my ears they were so full of gunk!! But he cleared them for me, and oh my god the difference was unbelievable!! I thought I'd blown a drum, but nope- just really clogged!! Gotta get em sorted every now and then, but what you described sounds just like my problem!
Hope that helped a little!

SF
 
Thanks for the lweb inks Mccabejc. The knowledge on this issue is enlightening to me, since I have had swimmers ear many times. Your the man!!! Your M. D. diploma is in the mail.
 
Hey Neil,
Go find yourself a good reputable chiropractor and have your cervical spine checked for subluxation complex. Dysfunction in the spine affects the nervous system, causing nervous inflammation and muscle spasm.

If you do this, follow the chiros instructions for proper treatment. In my office, a normal therapeutic trial (test run) involves having the neck and upper spine examined for subluxation. If present, we treat the patient usually 4-6x, then reevaluate.

Most people note significant good results very quickly. Try it and see for yourself.

If you do this, I encourage you to come back here to the ScubaBoard and report your results to this forum.

Hope this helps.

Dr. Page Crow DC



Neil A. Bryson:
Every dive trip results in a congested feeling in my ears especially the left side. It usually takes about 1 month for them to return to normal. During that month, I have difficulty hearing, a hollow sound when I talk, popping sounds when I swallow, and a throbbing sensation with each pulse beat. I have no trouble equalizing during the dive, but after the first two or three dives of the trip, my nose bleeds. ENT's treat me with decongestants or like I have a sinus infection. The treatment doesn't seem to speed up the recovery period. Does anyone else have similar problems, and any ideas as to the phsiology of what's happening to me? Thanks
 
Neil, that is the most common malady for new divers. Though you said you have no problem equalizing you are probably equalizing after you feel the need.

So, imagine this scenario. You are descending. You go down a few feet. You feel the discomfort and equalize and feel fine and continue on and repeat. But during the brief moment before you reached equilibrium you subjected the middle ear to a negative pressure environment. That relative vacuum pulls a tiny amount of body fluid from the surrounding tissues so as to create an equalibrium.

Then later during the dive you may slowly descend several feet as you are cruising along but don't really notice because you are a careful diver and don't make sudden depth changes. The slowness of the change masks the pressure differential sensation and you don't feel the need to do a equalization but more fluids are seeping in.

It may take a day or two days to reabsorb the fluids but you are on a dive vaction and not only do you have more dives that day you have more days that week.

So, you are subjecting your ears to repeated minor middle ear trauma without the opportunity to recuperate. The worst case is the accummulated fluids create a nice petrie dish for a middle ear infection.

Additionally, the Valsava, the most easily and commonly used equalization maneuver is crude and abrupt and it is easy to overdo it if not careful. So, you can be slamming your ears from one pressure extreme to the other. Look at the delicate structures in there that are getting pounded.

Some things that may help are to try some other equalization techniques and to "pre-pressurize" to avoid the state that encourages fluid accumulation.

Check out this site for some great info that helped me: Prevention of Middle Ear Barotrauma and a video by the same physician, Edmond Kay, M.D., clinical assistant professor, Family Medicine, University of Washington School of Medicine; diving medical officer, Dive Safety Program, University of Washington
 
How My!!! Do I relate to this thread. I am new to diving (finished the pool & headed to Barbados to certify). For a week afterward, my ears bug me. I am off to see an ENT who specializes in diving to make sure nothing is wrong.

Here is my point - I took pseudoephedrine to clear my ears. Last time - EVER!!! I had a really nasty drug reaction. I developed almost unmanageable anxiety and tinnitus after only 7 tablets over three days. Every Scuba diver I spoke to said this was great stuff to keep you clear. My advice - never take advise without making sure you understand it!!! Oh yeah, I combined the pills with a nasal spray - by the way they compound the effect of the other. Six days now & still waiting for the drug reaction to wear off!! Can you say scary!
 
Andrew Richardson:
How My!!! Do I relate to this thread. I am new to diving (finished the pool & headed to Barbados to certify). For a week afterward, my ears bug me. I am off to see an ENT who specializes in diving to make sure nothing is wrong.

Here is my point - I took pseudoephedrine to clear my ears. Last time - EVER!!! I had a really nasty drug reaction. I developed almost unmanageable anxiety and tinnitus after only 7 tablets over three days. Every Scuba diver I spoke to said this was great stuff to keep you clear. My advice - never take advise without making sure you understand it!!! Oh yeah, I combined the pills with a nasal spray - by the way they compound the effect of the other. Six days now & still waiting for the drug reaction to wear off!! Can you say scary!
Howdy and welcome to SB!

Pseudoephedrine is possible the most popular OTC med to divers, but not for everyone. Chemically similar to speed, it can have bad side effects like you experienced. Decongestants and antihistamines should be tested in one's body well before using for diving. I take pseudoephedrine, but it's a daily med for me. :wink:

Otherwise, for ease of equalizing and to prevent simmer's ear type problems, many divers find that vented ear plugs are great, and I like to always use 50-50 vinegar-alcohol in my ears after every dive or shower.
 
Hey Andrew!

It's never a good idea to dive under the influence of DRUGS, no matter what kind of DRUGS they are. It's as unsafe and unethical as diving under the influence of alcohol. Dive professionals should not be advocating the use of any DRUGS to get a person through a dive. The fellow who posted he takes pseudo-ephidrines on a daily basis is addicted to drugs. How unfortunate. There is a CAUSE for blockage that affects ear equalization disorders. Find and fix the CAUSE. Don't cover it up with DRUGS. To make these chemicals sound nicer and sweeter, they nowadays call them "meds". It's a soft sound, makes it more palatable. But they are still DRUGS. Dive sweet and pure, clear, un-medicated, no DRUGS, no alcohol. Enjoy the experience under the full influence of your natural body. It's a better experience.

Dr. page crow DC
 
The fellow who posted he takes pseudo-ephidrines on a daily basis is addicted to drugs. How unfortunate. There is a CAUSE for blockage that affects ear equalization disorders. Find and fix the CAUSE. Don't cover it up with DRUGS.
I see by your profile that you are a "chiropractor, acupuncturist, herbalist, natural healer," I guess that you disagree with my MD and DAN is not surprising. :D
 

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