DSS single tank rig questions

[PerroneFord]

Thanks Tobin, I don't know WHAT he was looking at. It does beg the question that if he dives doubles, why was he confused about the H-Valve being listed.

Heck, I only paid $500 for my first double set and that INCLUDES the tanks.

 

[lakewinni]

You can get bands and a manifold for about $200 or maybe even less than that. Go on leisurepro and they sell the OMS bands which are good for like $85. Then go on ebay and you can buy a new 200 or 300 bar manifold from http://stores.ebay.com/Divers-Supply-Scuba-Diving-Gear
for $100 or $130 in auction (hint those are the reserves).
There you go, bands and a manifold for $200.

 

[PerroneFord]

Agreed. But I felt it more useful to post on warrantied, new gear. Deals are always out there. If he's got the tanks, he's $350 from doubles. Or $155 from an H-Valve that he will toss aside when he does go doubles. Might be prudent to see if he can get an H-Valve on Ebay.

 

[sbushong]

Thanks Tobin, I don't know WHAT he was looking at. It does beg the question that if he dives doubles, why was he confused about the H-Valve being listed.

OK. Let me clarify. One H-valve is reguired if you want to split your doubles into a single tank rig, at any point. Two standalone valves, one manifold with isolator, and one H-valve. If you don't ever split them, then you obvioiusly would not need an h-valve.

My memory isn't want it used to be, but I am fairly certain that I had a set of doubles on my back last weekend. You need to be a little more judicious about your comments. I will assure that if you make those type of comments outside of cyberspace too, you will eventually have a very unpleasant interacation with someone.

 

[PerroneFord]

You lost me again. If I wanted to split my doubles into a single tank rig, I'd take off the manifold, and put a $35 valve on the tank and dive it as a single. What would be the point of splitting a set of doubles into single tanks, just to toss two regulators on it?

As for your memory, I don't know. If you had doubles on your back last weekend, you're one up on me. I was looking into mine with a UV light. As for having an unpleasant interaction with someone... well, I don't really get into a lot of fights. In fact, I haven't been in a fight since elementary school. I've learned other means of dispute resolution. Or maybe being 6'0", 245, with a 50" chest and 18" biceps deters most people from picking fights.

Anyway, all kidding aside, if the H-Valve works for you, terrific. It's not SUPER expensive. And many people in SCUBA spend $150 like it was pocket change anyway. More power to them.

Thanks Tobin, I don't know WHAT he was looking at. It does beg the question that if he dives doubles, why was he confused about the H-Valve being listed.

OK. Let me clarify. One H-valve is reguired if you want to split your doubles into a single tank rig, at any point. Two standalone valves, one manifold with isolator, and one H-valve. If you don't ever split them, then you obvioiusly would not need an h-valve.

My memory isn't want it used to be, but I am fairly certain that I had a set of doubles on my back last weekend. You need to be a little more judicious about your comments. I will assure that if you make those type of comments outside of cyberspace too, you will eventually have a very unpleasant interacation with someone.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Or maybe being 6'0", 245, with a 50" chest and 18" biceps deters most people from picking fights.

I had a 50" chest once ... it sank ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[sbushong]

I split mine sometimes because I am occasionally on a boat that is not double-friendly and sometimes because I am am diving with others who only have a single tank. The H valve allows me to retain the same configuration as I had with doubles. I am not advocating that other people do the same, I was only stating that there is a reason to have an H valve.

As for having a 50 inch chest, if you challenge a complete stranger's integrity in the real world as quicky as you do here then you will most likely get an opportunity to find out whether that is enough to keep you out of trouble.

 

[O'Malley]

I've been popping in every know and then to my post but hadn't the opportunity, time to respond...thanks much for the useful information. The reason I asked for feedback on the H valve was based on a recommendation from the LDS geared towards advanced/technical diving that I have one on a singles configuration.

Tobin, thanks for the detailed information to properly assess my wing requirements...I've some homework to do this weekend.

BTW, how do you like the XCD2? Does the compressed neoprene provide any noticeable insulation value?

Well, I only have about 30 dives in the drysuit but to this point, quite pleased. I have been comfortable in water temps in the upper 30's to mid 40's at depth with the BARE T100 undergarments. However, this is my first drysuit and having never dove another, I can't compare to other brands.

Again, thanks for all the valuable feedback in the process of researching my future purchase...

 

[cool_hardware52]

I had a 50" chest once ... it sank ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

I feel your pain, gravity and time can be cruel :05:


Tobin

 

[PerroneFord]

Look,

I was half BS'ing with you. But seriously, I just think the H-Valve is half a solution. It's not that it's "bad" per se, but I think it can give a false sense of security in certain circumstances. I understand about boats not being double friendly. Nearly all the boats near me cater to spearfisherman or vacation divers. Same problem. I seem to have found at least 2 that will carry doubles, through contacts here. Maybe a talk with the captain in your case could smooth the way??

As for the 50" chest thing.... I just think it makes a bigger target. I really didn't meant to challenge your credibility seriously, but come on. You have to admit it's a bit strange that you would ADD the cost of the H-Valve and the doubles, when we were just talking about a few hundred bucks...

Sorry if I offended you. And really, I'm not a bad guy. Though I do enjoy a good strong discussion. I think people really suss out issues when they put themselves out there. No hard feelings, ok?

-P

I split mine sometimes because I am occasionally on a boat that is not double-friendly and sometimes because I am am diving with others who only have a single tank. The H valve allows me to retain the same configuration as I had with doubles. I am not advocating that other people do the same, I was only stating that there is a reason to have an H valve.

As for having a 50 inch chest, if you challenge a complete stranger's integrity in the real world as quicky as you do here then you will most likely get an opportunity to find out whether that is enough to keep you out of trouble.