Drysuit Specialty course tips?

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There are a number of posts in this thread that say that dry suit classes teach one to use the dry suit for buoyancy control underwater, since controlling two buoyancy systems (dry suit and BCD0 may be too complicated.

In fact, PADI threw that away in 2007 when they introduced revision 3 of their Dry Suit Diver course.
Starting in 2007, the PADI guidance is to use the BCD for buoyancy at the surface AND underwater if either diving a neoprene dry suit or doing tech diving; the dry suit for underwater buoyancy control is only suggested for shell dry suits if the control of two buoyancy systems is too much for the student. The reason given for the distinction between which buoyancy systems to use underwater -- for a shell or a neoprene dry suit -- arises from the neoprene suit having some buoyancy loss with depth, where as the shell does not; similarly, in tech diving one is often over-weighted at the beginning of a dive (steel tanks, deco bottles and stages, etc) so using the drysuit for buoyancy control might represent far too much gas in the suit, and thus a danger if some of the over-weight were lost.

For simplicity, since use of the shell dry suit for underwater buoyancy control is only suggested, and not mandated, the dry suit instructors I know simply ask the students to use their BCDs for buoyancy control in all situations, and to put jsut enough gas into the drysuit to avoid squeeze and stay warm. Thus, recreational dry suit training becomes congruent with tech training. Nice.
 
and we learned a few things that are going to be useful going forward.

Will what you learnt also be useful when going backward
 
There are a number of posts in this thread that say that dry suit classes teach one to use the dry suit for buoyancy control underwater, since controlling two buoyancy systems (dry suit and BCD0 may be too complicated.

In fact, PADI threw that away in 2007 when they introduced revision 3 of their Dry Suit Diver course.
Starting in 2007, the PADI guidance is to use the BCD for buoyancy at the surface AND underwater if either diving a neoprene dry suit or doing tech diving; the dry suit for underwater buoyancy control is only suggested for shell dry suits if the control of two buoyancy systems is too much for the student.
Interesting information!
 
Interesting information!
This is the BSAC advice for drysuit divers.

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Initially, we were supposed to do our OW in drysuits, and we did start out in drysuits, completing a couple of 'dives', which in retrospect must have looked absolutely ridiculous 😂 However, we feel we didn't get much info about how to properly dive a drysuit, and handling a drysuit on top of everything turned out to be too much for us at the point, so we switched to wetsuits and completed our OW.

We want to be able to dive dry, so we've signed up for a drysuit course, and having gone through the drysuit course theory (and also completed the drysuit theory section in the AOW course (not yet certified AOW), it all makes a lot more sense.

Now we're wondering which skills we have to go through, what is the hardest part of the course? Any good tips and tricks for beginners?
Just get used to feeling the air move around your suit, recognise quickly if your feet are getting floaty and move so that some of that air moves back up out of your socks. Practice doing a front roll to sort yourself out if your feet do get too floaty and you get inverted.

Also, I have doubts with everyone saying “don’t use your suit for bouyancy, use your BC”. If you’re correctly weighted, enough air to take off the squeeze should be about enough for you to hit neutral bouyancy. I essentially never have to touch my BC when I’m diving a dry suit, which given I’m in the UK is almost always. That being said, the recommendation for this varies from training agency to training agency so it really is a case of do what you’re most comfortable with. I just prefer to not have to remember to dump from two things rather than one when ascending.
 
On top of all this wisdom you have a choice of neo or trilam suit, latex or neo seals and potentially rock boots and dry gloves.
Personally I go with a trilam suit so I can adjust my undergarments to the temperature or duration. In this vein I also go with latex wrist seals for summer and kubi dry gloves for winter. I think a neo neck seal is more comfy and durable. Because I often have an equipment carry over rocky terrain I opt for rock boots.
 
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If you’re correctly weighted, enough air to take off the squeeze should be about enough for you to hit neutral bouyancy.
No, you need another 2+ liters (AL80/11L tank) or 3+ liters (HP100/13L tank) at the beginning of the dive to compensate for the gas you've yet to breath.

Leveraging the auto-dump makes it easy to achieve consistent suit buoyancy and trim throughout the dive, with the BCD handling the remainder of buoyancy needs.

Obviously, preferences vary on the matter. For those new to drysuit, I'd encourage you to try both approaches.
 
No, you need another 2+ liters (AL80/11L tank) or 3+ liters (HP100/13L tank) at the beginning of the dive to compensate for the gas you've yet to breath.

Leveraging the auto-dump makes it easy to achieve consistent suit buoyancy and trim throughout the dive, with the BC handling the remainder of buoyancy needs.

Obviously, preferences vary on the matter. For those new to drysuit, I'd encourage you to try both approaches.
What’s a AL80/11Lt tank. Not used in the U.K. except as stage bottles.

I’ve got 12Lt 232bar cylinders with Tare weights ranging from 12Kg to 17Kg. Using your concept of cylinder capacity to judge weighting is flawed.
 
Using your concept of cylinder capacity to judge weighting is flawed.
Using cylinder capacity to judge weighting is indeed flawed, but not at all what my post was about.
 

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