ALICINA, thankyou for you'r help and input, i have one more question for though. again the camera i barowwed was nothing speacial just point and shot, no adjutments on the camera and as i said the pic's came out pretty good. i can work my wife's power shot a75 well enough with out adusting anything. i have read alot of thread's about u/w photogaraphy. what settings would you recamend. is factory ok for cancun pic's (on a good day) ? what do'es the white do ?what is it ? i turned up the falsh is that enough, i do'nt have a strobe yet, and what shutter speed would be good for life flying in the water and the ones that pose. i have gone through the manual and it tells how to set things but not what it will do for or what it does. please help thank you again. jerry