Dolphin slaughter

[getwet2]

Disturbingly REAL!!
Just another example of how we as humans (well some humans anyway) have no regard for the fellow creatures that we share this planet with. I'm sure it can be compared to how some of our DOMESTICATED farm animals our treated, to the people that do this for a living that's all it is to them, just a living, sad but true.

 

[Hank49]

GOtta agree with Sue. Cattle are herded into the slaughterhouse and killed with a single shot to the head and then butchered. Plus domestic cattle are pretty damn dumb. .

quite a bit more drawn out than the average slaughterhouse.

I used to listen to an Islamic radio station when I lived in Malaysia and they say that the Islamic way of killing an animal, by slitting the throat, is more humane. They said that they measured brain waves as a way of showing stress after either slitting the throat or shooting a cow and that shooting in the head with a air blast or bullet was more stressful to the animal.
That said, the video ruined my day. I hunted and killed and dressed out animals, but dolphins....man. Different culture I guess.

 

[scubashooter]

The video is very real. It is part of the fishing culture in certain parts of Izu and the southern islands as well. Well documented and it's a long lived tradition. There is a glimmer of hope in that several of the fishermen have been persuaded to turn their boats into dolphin watching instead of slaughter. Been quite successful. Fortunately they estimate the dolphin killing for food is pretty much on its last generation.

 

[jiveturkey]

Fortunately they estimate the dolphin killing for food is pretty much on its last generation.

Maybe...A japanese friend of mine told me she used to eat whale meat in school. She's only in her twenties.

And if you look at the trends toward chinese medicine, it's actually increasing the strain on marine populations. The number of sharks killed to make shark fin soup grows every year.

 

[TwoBitTxn]

I have issues with videos like this one. It is produced to do exactly what it did. Gross people out, make them angry, so on, and so forth. Yes, the video is disgusting. I have serious issues with the practices that were shown in the video. However, there are significant parts of the world that have the same feelings about many of the practices of the U.S. and we as a culture have little to no issue with them because it's the way we grew up.

We change cultural practices by reaching out to the younger generations. I don't think it is our place to tell the world what it is right to eat or not eat. We can teach them to harvest animals in a sustainable fashion so there is enough for everyone.

TwoBit

 

[scubashooter]

Maybe...A japanese friend of mine told me she used to eat whale meat in school. She's only in her twenties.
And if you look at the trends toward chinese medicine, it's actually increasing the strain on marine populations. The number of sharks killed to make shark fin soup grows every year.

Sharks fin has nothing to do with medicinal purposes. It's a status symbol for the nouveau riche chinese (and 200 million of them does make a big market). Shark cartilege was touted as a cancer preventative years ago but since disproven. Guess that news hasn't reached a few people.
The dolphin slaughter in Japan is a small problem compared to the other things fishing has wreaked on fish populations around the world and on reefs. Exhausted fish stocks etc. I'd rather they keep those practices and kill a few hundred dolphins and lay off sharks and other apex predators like bluefin tuna etc, which are being hunted into extinction.
Actually the sharks population is down to about 10% in most areas and for many species so the number is actually decreasing cos there aren't many of them left.

 

[ShakaZulu]

We change cultural practices by reaching out to the younger generations. I don't think it is our place to tell the world what it is right to eat or not eat. We can teach them to harvest animals in a sustainable fashion so there is enough for everyone.
TwoBit

How do you intend to do that, this hole thing is driven by money, exactly same way that abalone, lobster, fish is harvested from the oceans........no one cares. Yes, they may have hunting seasons/quotas, but what goes on behind the closed doors? Just the nature of scavenger man, pisses me off.....

 

[TwoBitTxn]

How do you intend to do that, this hole thing is driven by money, exactly same way that abalone, lobster, fish is harvested from the oceans........no one cares. Yes, they may have hunting seasons/quotas, but what goes on behind the closed doors? Just the nature of scavenger man, pisses me off.....

I don't agree that the whole thing is driven by money. Shark fin soup, I can agree with that. There is still a demand for it. Just like recreational drugs, as long as there is a demand someone will make attempt to supply it.

There are limits on abalone, lobster, and fish in the U.S. People in the right positions care. Most members if the general public care. There are also people out there who feel it is their God given right to harvest as much as they can when they can. When these people get caught, they pay big fines.

I personally cannot do anything about the dolphin slaughter in Japan. However, I can choose to eat fish that are harvested using safe,sustainable methods. I am also in a unique position of being able to teach others about food choices and sustainable practices. Think globally, act locally.

TwoBit

 

[scubashooter]

Two Bit
I believe what ShakaZulu is referring to is the illegal harvesting of abalone for the asian (predominantly chinese) market. In the UK, South Africa etc, loads of people go after the abalone illegally. There is some illegal harvesting in California as well. His point is that the money is so huge that those paltry fines are not a deterant.

 

[jiveturkey]

Sharks fin has nothing to do with medicinal purposes. It's a status symbol for the nouveau riche chinese (and 200 million of them does make a big market). Shark cartilege was touted as a cancer preventative years ago but since disproven. Guess that news hasn't reached a few people.
The dolphin slaughter in Japan is a small problem compared to the other things fishing has wreaked on fish populations around the world and on reefs. Exhausted fish stocks etc. I'd rather they keep those practices and kill a few hundred dolphins and lay off sharks and other apex predators like bluefin tuna etc, which are being hunted into extinction.
Actually the sharks population is down to about 10% in most areas and for many species so the number is actually decreasing cos there aren't many of them left.

True. I guess we're arguing the same thing. My point is that instead of moving away from these outdated practices we're allowing them to grow. Don't expect the Japanese to stop killing whales or dolphins anytime soon. Japanese fishers have massive political clout and obviously the markets are still there.