Do you tip an instructor?

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Tips can be more than money, yanno ... some things I've received from students include ...

Gifts - I've gotten souvenirs from exotic places, pieces of dive gear or clothing, airline tix to California, and most recently a gift certificate to ScubaToys.

Meals/drinks - lots of times ... one of my current students brings take-out from her parent's restaurant. Yup, that's for me ... will work for food ... :popcorn:

Someone mentioned hugs ... hey, I'm half-Italian ... :D

Simple things like a Thank You card ... hey, I'm a sentimental old fool ... those go up on my refrigerator.

Tips aren't really about money ... at least not to me. As an instructor, it's more a statement that the student felt I gave them something of value ... perhaps more than they were expecting.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
All:

OK, thanks for your support. I thought for sure I was going to get massively flamed (:

I do want to point out two instances where I did tip an instructor:

a). South Beach Divers (Florida). The "congratulations you passed" letter they give you in the process of doing the log books specifically mentions something like of, "the one lesson we didn't teach you is that you should tip your instructor - blah blah blah". I thought that was fairly gauche. However, my wife completed her open water class and I didn't want her to be the only schmuck who DIDN'T tip, so I gave her $40 to give the instructor. We also both took a Nitrox course, but that guy was all but worthless and he didn't even get a thank you. Maybe this is why my picture ended up on her open water certification card (the instructor for the Nitrox class was the one doing all the paperwork).

b). When my wife completed her Advanced OW course and drysuit class, I gave her $40 to give the instructor. This was mostly because the instructor is someone I sort of know and am likely to see again - and I knew someone else was tipping her, so again, I didn't want my sweetie to look like a schmuck.

Based on the 5 pages of comments here - I will not be tipping any instructors anymore (:

Thanks!
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As an Instructor I do not expect a tip, as a Divemaster i do not expect a tip. As a babysitter, photo taker, drink getter, comedian and generally making sure people have a good holiday I do not expect a tip. On all the boats I work on we (as the instructors/dms) urge people to tip the boat boys. They are all rescue divers, we teach them for free, the pay for the cert card. They live on the boats earn crap money, and spend all day helping divers in and out of the water, filling tanks, finding lost masks and fins, cooking food etc. All of the Instructors make a point of putting money in the tip box in front of the customers. The boat staff make our day easier, they deserve the reward. If a customer wants to tip me OK, but 50% of it goes to the boys. These people are the unseen part of diving.
Give tips to the locals, not the pros. We get paid to do what we love!
 
I never tip the owner, of anything -- the owner of a "salon" who cuts my hair may get a bottle of wine at holiday time, but no tips. I don't tip my dentist, either. I don't tip my dive instructors (OW, AOW, and Nitrox so far), but I do tip the dive staff on a boat unless it is just the owner, which is never the case. If the service on the boat sucks, they get ZIP and a negative comment on SB. Good/excellent service gets 10% - 20%, pretty much like I tip the wait staff in restaurants. When diving in foreign locales, I follow local customs, .
 
As an instructor I would never expect a monetary tip. However I have received thank you cards, a gift pack containing several finger reels and a six pack of beer, hugs, happy smiles on my student's faces, seeing the divers that I trained continuing to dive and to enjoy it and repeat students (coming back to take additional classes). One of my best tips was when a family took the time to write a personal note to my agency expressing their satisfaction with their entire open water experience (I learned about this because the agency then sent me an atta-girl note).
 
So guys - help out a brother here. Assuming local, non-resort service - what do you tip for:

a). OW class
b). Advanced class
c). Rescue Diver class
d). Specialty class

Just wanted to make sure we stay on topic! As with most things, even with the narrow parameters of the OP's question, it just depends!

I have worked for both resort and non-resort dive operators here in Hawaii. The non-resort jobs were all different; one dive shop with a small 6 passenger dive boat, a 13 passenger certified dive boat run as a 6-passenger and a well run 13 passenger dive boat, both of those with no dive shop.

Most of the instruction for all these companies is done as shore dives, although OW dive #4, AOW Deep+1 and some Specialties are often done from the boat. The majority of the customers for all these operations are tourists, staying in resorts.

Local customers happen. :D Here in the Islands we have a local discount called the kama'aina rate. All my dive employers here have given some form of kama'aina discount. We hope to develop a relationship with the customer such that they would remain customers and refer both locals and tourists to us for their diving needs. A class of 4 kama'ainas is usually a break even for the owner (no profit), unless the owner conducts the class. Less than 4 is often run at a loss for the owner.

Instructor rates for non-resort operations are $80-$100 per day, although my current employer pays by the head. Because most divers and prospective divers mostly go with the least expensive class, most classes are priced lower than makes financial sense. That means nearly all OW classes in the Islands are "4-day" classes, where the "first day" is you by yourself reading the book and doing the Knowledge Reviews.

In order to get 4 locals (who probably didn't do their homework) through in 3 days, at least one day will be 10 hours. The second day might be 8 hours due to the logistics of getting 4 new divers through two shore dives. The final day could be only 6 hours because of the prior days practice, but if it's a weekends class most people don't remember.

$300 divided by 24 hours (best case) is $12.50 per hour. With rent here around $1000/mo for a studio apartment and milk $5.50/gal, $12.50/hr is not enough to pay the bills. Busboy's (& girls) in the hotels and resorts make more than that, before tips! Fast food and convenience store jobs start at $10/hr. Calling a dive instructor "a Professional" is just a crutch for a bunch of cheap bastards!

Just because your instructor's "other job" is "lawyer", or "bartender", does not change the fact that most instructors are making $10/hr if they are lucky when they teach the local non-resort students. And least we forget, the instructor is "only" training you to survive and enjoy yourself in an alien environment; instruction which done improperly could cost you your health, or your life!

Now let's look at the costs of being a scuba instructor. Annual membership fees and annual instructor insurance is "around" a thousand dollars (some pay less). Dive equipment wears out much quicker, for shore instructors especially. Tomorrow I am paying for my/our biannual First Aid and CPR certs, as well as having the boat not run on one of my scheduled work days!

A busboy's biannual costs are a couple pairs of pants and a pair of shoes! :confused:

Luckily, the locals in Hawaii are way more akamai than SB's vocal minority. In 7 years of certifying the occasional locals, I can count the non-tippers on one hand, and often meals and drinks is more gratuity than cash!
 
This is all interesting to know - but it falls into the category of "employee wages are between the employee and the employer." If they're conducting classes at a loss, that's hardly the customer's fault. If they refuse to raise their prices to make a profit, that's hardly the customer's fault either. If someone cannot make a living in the profession of their choice - well, that is also not the customer's fault. Not everyone can earn a living doing what they love. I know I can't.

As for costs of being an instructor...hell, I racked up $90,000 in student loans. I don't get tips - and neither do get to reduce that cost from my income to figure taxes.
 
First , I never tip for any of my certs that I ever earned. It's more of a class then a service. I have most of my dive certs, I have certs for operating heavy equipment, and I have Medical certs. Certifications are earned not just given because you showed up and payed your money. I think you put way to much thought into this, If you went to do your dives with a particular boat choosen by the dive center you went to, then chances are you TIPPED the boat crew. If you went with your group and ate after dives. Then you probably TIPPED the servers .( 15% ,20% whatever). With that being said you passed on your gratitude to the dive shop by passing on bissiness to his fellow bussiness owners. Hell for a matter of fact, you probably bought gear and products from that very dive shop. Diving isn't cheap and Getting started or getting certifications isn't either. So with that being said I think that your all tipped out dude! As I said your putting way to much thought into it .Tip when, where, to who, and how much you want and as long as you can live with it, you should be OK. Just remember one thing,,,,,,you can't really be sure who, or what, or how many people touched your meal before you ate it, and you don't know how much they've made in tips or how many cheapskates they gave superior service to and got stiffed that shift!!!!!!!Hope this helped you out in the future, ( And by the way I am really a paramedic !!!It's funny that you put that in there. ) I would never want or take tips for doing what I do. Good Luck , tankeddiver!
 
Tips, for me are gratuities given for PERSONAL service provided beyond what I should recieve beyond the service one should recieve based on the "consideration given for goods/serviced recieved" contract we normally engage in.

... however, if I made my living as a DM or Instructor I might very well have a different perspective on this...

... probably one of those "perspective" things...

But I also have a 'schedule' for places where 'tipping' is expected. I start with a 15% base... if you aren't cheerful and happy... you lose points. If I have to WAIT for anything... YOU lose points. If I don't get PERSONALIZED service... yep... YOU lose points. Make my life better... YOU can gain points. Feel the need to chat with your buddies during MY time... fine... costs ya'. Lose enough points... lose a customer.

On the other hand... tips have gone over the 15% base... exceptional service warrants exceptional *tips*... There was a DM at a manatee dive I was on one time in Crystal River... after snerkelin' with the manatees the group did a dive into "King's Cavern"... my wive/dive buddy wasn't comfortable with the environment so we headed back to the surface (after I signaled the DM) to wait for the group. After the rest of the group had toured and came up and was paddling around in the shallows the DM came over and offered to take me back down for a short trip into the cavern...

His *tip* went above the 15% base...
 

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