Do you have to be GUE trained to be "DIR" ??

[Gombessa]

I think the most effective way to learn DIR is over the internet

If that were true, I'd be better than all y'all combined by now

 

[rjack321]

If that were true, I'd be better than all y'all combined by now

The crack you heard is the shattering of my team bunny illusions :depressed:

 

[Gombessa]

The crack you heard is the shattering of my team bunny illusions :depressed:

Humpty dumpty sat on a wall...

 

[Blackwood]

There's no need to concern yourself with whether you "are DIR" or not.

DIR isn't a badge and it isn't bragging rights. It's a diving system and philosophy, and the only people to whom it really ought to matter are your team mates. Does having training from GUE or UTD simplify introductions? Sure. Is it an end-all-be-all? Certainly not.

 

[PfcAJ]

I believe that one can be DIR without GUE training, but getting there is a lot harder and there is a good chance you'll miss something without it.

I've met a few people who think they're DIR, but when you delve a little deeper into their diving practices, they don't line up with GUE's system. Its little things, but I feel that it makes a difference in the smoothness of the dive.

 

[Rainer]

And likewise, I know some people with GUE training who couldn't dive their way out of a paper bag...

I believe that one can be DIR without GUE training, but getting there is a lot harder and there is a good chance you'll miss something without it.

I've met a few people who think they're DIR, but when you delve a little deeper into their diving practices, they don't line up with GUE's system. Its little things, but I feel that it makes a difference in the smoothness of the dive.

 

[PfcAJ]

Same. There are definitely some 'GUE' guys that shouldn't be in a bathtub without supervision. This tends to taper off the higher up the training ladder the person is.

 

[Belmont]

Do you have to be GUE trained to be "DIR" ??

Definitely not, but you have to to post in the DIR practitioners forum.

 

[TSandM]

Getting the training gives you a common baseline on procedures. There isn't a whole lot about dive planning that you can't talk about ahead of time, and adjust (for example, how intersections are marked, or how deco is going to be planned and communicated). But it's when things go wrong that you want your team to have a well-practiced and comfortable procedure. I had the experience of doing a class with an extremely experienced and skilful diver (probably the best of the three of us, in terms of just plain diving ability) who simply hadn't been taught the protocols we use. When we had failures in class, he didn't understand our signals, didn't proceed as we expected him to, and was often at a loss as to what to do. It taught me a big lesson about making sure that everybody on the team understands what someone will do in the event of a problem, and what the response of the team ought to be.

 

[RonFrank]

In our area GUE seems to be doing well, however it is NOT strictly DIR, as one UTD shop seems to be tightly coupled with DIR, and the other less so.

I have observed the less DIR GUE shop in action, and they are more DIR than not, however they are not what I have observed as strict.

This seems to be a bit of a trend.

But DIR is not the goal, IMO rather safe diving. I dive with DIR-F graduates on a regular basis, and we seem to coexist well together. Team diving is the goal.