Do I want a compressor?

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I have 3 compressors and , having one owning a store is obvious ..... but as a person I still like having it at my convenience . that being said BE CARFULL buying used ........as I got burned for nearly 7 k buying from a rip off seller .(ill name names if some one wants to know as he and his wife have several for sale in Manitoba Canada...) but im glad now I have it now (after paying off the repair bill !!!)
 
Renting out a 4500 to a paintball field is a great idea!

Meant "bank" cylinder, the big one. They load it into the back of the truck laying down on a pallet I made to keep it stable when transporting. They can get maybe 25 fills before the pressure drops enough that they can't use it. they bring it back @ 2500psi and I top it off. That runs the compressor on the high end, but it runs under optimal conditions... low temp, low humidity with fans on it. Been thinking about building a trailer that they can hitch up and tow, much like a dolly with road tires for 2 cylinders. That way I can roll it into the garage, stand it up and fill.
 
If you just get air fills, it will be hard to justify economically. Convenience is another matter but if you're within 30 minutes of a shop you will probably do better using the shop if its hours work for you at all. Factor air tests into your costs, and strongly consider a CO analyzer (with its test gas costs). Actually, consider that whether you buy your own compressor or not.

For me, local Trimix fills were $250 and I use a fair amount of Trimix, Nitrox, and O2, the latter two for decompression gas. A T bottle of He is about what one fill costs locally, cutting Trimix costs by 75% or more for most depths. At that rate, I paid off the compressor, bank, gauges, analyzer, and Haskel in about 3 years. But I was fairly lucky in finding a lot of used stuff I could use at reasonable prices, too.

Owning a fill station is, frankly, a bit of a pain. I do one air test a year for OCA with old filters, and I run fill-size towers. When I get it back and it's passed, which it has every year so far, I change the filters. That's about $250 a year in tests and filters, another $75 a year or so in oil (synthetics are best but cost more) and once in a while repairs (like a new 4th stage head and new 4th stage coil) and upgrades. Then there's keeping the bank hydros current (if you choose to), and maintenance on the bank valves and those on the whips, and so on. So direct costs for me are about $350 a year plus repairs.

Startup costs include the compressor, the fittings and hoses or tubing to connect them, new oil, and new filters, at a minimum. Having bank tanks beats not having them by a wide margin but mostly only if you have a continuous duty compressor.

Also alll your diving friends will want fills. I don't have insurance for that, which makes me *extremely* selective about to whom I provide fills. On the plus side, my compressor should run more hours a year than it does. On the down side is liability. I am pretty confident that those to whom I provide fills understand and accept the risk, and that their families do as well.

On the balance, I am very happy to have my own fill/blending station, and I would not have it any other way. I have more training than many LDS's and I know damn well who is breathing the mixes, which makes me very, very cautious. However, from an economic standpoint, I don't plan to test 8X a year, either (4X per year before and after filter changes), which is the gold standard used by those servicing breathing air systems locally for fire companies, nor 4X a year after filter changes as many local LDS's do. So I do accept some risk, too.

Hope these meandering thoughts are helpful...
 
You have a bunch of tanks so it's not likely you are probably going to want to go diving and have no full tanks to use. I have a little Cornelius and for me it's no big deal having to change the oil and filter every 25 hours because most of the time I'm diving on a vacation with someone else's tanks. However, when the day comes where I get back to doing more local shore diving I'm sure I'll love having my own compressor. I like to overfill a little which most dives shops won't do (at least not around here). The oil is very expensive and there do not seem to be any great deals on it but my compressor does not hold much oil and uses very little when running. Personally I would not compare $6 fills to filling my own (it's more like $13 here, at least at Casino Point) unless it was a huge difference. The fact is that I spend money on diving but most of it is for trips so by filling my own tanks it does not really increase my overall "diving costs" by very much. But I only paid $300 for the compressor and it was ready-to-use except for a very small leak in the fill line.

Seriously, how many people here do you suppose will say not to buy one? :wink:
 
I have a compressor, booster, (12) 4500 psi 450 Cu Ft bank bottles at home and a separate compressor on the boat. Except for the He and O2 contract that I have (compared to buying them in a shop) - the compressor itself doesnt save me a nickel....but it sure is convenient and saves me a TON of time.

Its all about convenience for me. My crew and friends local to my house all stop here for fills and help out with maintenance so for me its a no brainer.
 
I look at it this way. I got my setup for a reasonable price. If I decide to get rid of it I will probably get a reasonable price and that will be close to the same number. The idea of parking some of my money in a fill station doesn't seem like a pad idea to me. In the meantime I will get 32% fills for around $1.50 a piece plus filter costs. The dive shop is over an hour away and won't fill to 3,442 psi.

The pleasure I get by slowly filling 4 tanks at the same time while rinsing out my gear and checking in on y'all good folks makes any effort of putting it together and maintaining it seem like a worthwhile way to have spent my time. What else am I going to do?
 
I look at it this way. I got my setup for a reasonable price. If I decide to get rid of it I will probably get a reasonable price and that will be close to the same number. The idea of parking some of my money in a fill station doesn't seem like a pad idea to me. In the meantime I will get 32% fills for around $1.50 a piece plus filter costs. The dive shop is over an hour away and won't fill to 3,442 psi.

The pleasure I get by slowly filling 4 tanks at the same time while rinsing out my gear and checking in on y'all good folks makes any effort of putting it together and maintaining it seem like a worthwhile way to have spent my time. What else am I going to do?

That's exactly it. I got a great setup at a fair price. It will not lose value unless I don't maintain it. It's basically a fun investment. I had the money for the initial purchase. If I'm ever in need of cash I can liquidate it fairly quickly. The key was to buy a nice sized compressor that has a known long life (Bauer)

I don't save money on fills, but I don't care. I've got none of the headaches of dealing with a shop and I can dump gas and change % at 2 am if I want. I actually find filling tanks and compressor upkeep very relaxing. I get to forget all of my headaches from work and zone out.
 
I did a calculation a couple of years ago on just how much it would cost to run/maintain a MCH6 compressor and it landed right around $2.45 per 80 cubic foot fill. That paid for oil changes, filter changes and valve kits. However, since I didn't figure the electric or gas to run it because of the varying prices all over the country, we have to add that in as well. The closest I could get to the amount of gas it took was a little less than a half a cup. So, total operational cost would put us around $3 per fill.

A savings over the dive shop? Well, yes and no. Yes, it is a bit less per fill out of the pocket. But No, it doesn't figure in the cost of the compressor itself. If we use round numbers I just pulled out of my arse, at 1000 fills, the cost per fill off the original compressor cost comes to $2.70. Add that to the operational cost and a more realistic cost is $5.70 per fill.

So, is it going to save you money? No ... not really. Especially since someone that can pump 1000 fills will most likely put the $2700 compressor aside and invest in a much higher capacity one.

The true value in owning your own compressor is in knowing the quality of the gas that is going into your cylinders
 
and not driving to the dive shop twice or once and waiting. also being able to fill your tanks when you get home at night and dive again the next day. also getting a full fill.
 
I bought one at the beginning of summer, haven't used it much since bike parks are open but come fall/winter/spring im planning on lots of diving.
I bought it strictly for the convenience.
 
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