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Diving without license/certification card

Discussion in 'AUSI: Associated Underwater Scuba Instructors' started by climax101, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. climax101

    climax101 Guest

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: Negros Oriental Philippines
    I been 1 years doing many dives in openwater, learning scuba diving from a friend PADI certification card holder. Is it necessary for me to enroll on a diving center to acquire certification card? What is the advantage of having a dive certification card?:wink:
  2. theduckguru

    theduckguru Divemaster Candidate

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: USA
    The scuba monopoly will prevent you from getting a tank filled or boarding a scuba charter. The same monopoly will sell you all the gear you can afford no questions asked.
  3. Ally Matangi

    Ally Matangi Angel Fish

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Currently 16˚ 44 S 179˚ 44 W
    Hey, Climax101, you are really taking a big risk & your mate is too. Get proper certification - you would be amazed at the wonderful opportunities that open up after proper certification. Any interested person can dive but do it properly & safely. Its scenarios like this that give scuba diving a bad rep.
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  4. rkenley

    rkenley Instructor, Scuba

    Hi, there are serious safety issues involved in diving on compressed air and, for that reason, people like to know that you are a safe diver. That is why you will be asked for a certification - it is your indication of being a safe diver - for the confidence of OTHERS.

    Do a course and you may find out why safety is such an issue.

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  5. =C=

    =C= Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: The third planet (a smaller one but a nice blue hu
    Skills like buddy breathing, mask clearing, emergency procedures, what do do if you make a mistake, how to avoid mistakes, and on top of that a card will let you dive other places. If you travel shops will generally not accept "my buddy showed me" as proof of training.

    And if you invest some time in the sport to become a professional someone may actually pay you to take tourists diving in the Philipines.
    Krazytomdiver and climax101 like this.
  6. climax101

    climax101 Guest

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: Negros Oriental Philippines
    thank you for the reply, i appreciate your concern being a scuba diver.
  7. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Subic Bay, Philippines
    I am not sure what response you were hoping for?

    "Hey bro, that's great. Sure... you did some diving with your friend who showed you some stuff. Here's a certification card in lieu of taking a comprehensive and regulated course!"

    If you don't have a certification card, then you'll find it extremely difficult to source air-fills and dive boat charters...especially if you wanted to dive outside of the Philippines.

    There aren't many businesses who'd be happy to take a diver underwater who had undocumented training, of an unknown standard, taken with a non-professionally trained 'instructor'. I can't blame them. You'd be a big liability for them.

    Likewise, as you've recieved your training from 'some guy'.. who doesn't know himself exactly what and how you should have been trained.... then for your own peace of mind, I would suggest that proper training would be a very good step forward. You may feel confident about diving.... but really, 'you don't know what you don't know'.

    PADI used to run a thing called the 'PADI Experienced Diver Certification Program'.
    This was a cross-over scheme for experienced, but uncertified, divers. You had to show proof of 20 logged dives (logged and verified in a log book), complete all knowledge reviews, quizzes and exam from the OW course, complete a skill circuit of core scuba skills...and demonstrate those skills on 4 open water training dives.

    There's no mention of that program in the current/latest PADI instructor manual... so it may have been discontinued. Perhaps another instructor may have an answer on that.
    Last edited: May 2, 2011
  8. jcfahy

    jcfahy Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: London UK and Los Angeles
    As always I endorse the comments of Devondiver but wish to add who is his right mind would want to buddy with an untrained diver? This constitutes a risk to every other concerned diver on your trip and you are. depriving yourself of the joys of continuous structured learning. For your pleasure and safety, get certified.
  9. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Subic Bay, Philippines
    Would that be the same 'scuba monopoly' that wouldn't buddy with an untrained diver? :coffee:
  10. Law5Guy

    Law5Guy HSA Instructor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Rabigh, Saudi Arabia
    NAUI has an Experienced Scuba Diver course.

    You must be 15 years of age and have proof of at least 25 open water scuba dives to enroll in an Experienced Scuba Diver course.

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