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Hey guys I have a question I was hoping you could clear up for me. My girlfriend is about to take the basic open water scuba course for her certification but she kinda has allergies. Stuff like pollen and pet dander gets to her if she's around too much. They aren't real bad but she usually has a kinda runny stuffy nose. Is it safe for her to dive? Would she be able to take some kind of decongestant? I know this pry seems like a stupid question but I've been outta the water for a while and can't remember wether or not this would cause a problem. Thanks everyone.
 
No decongestant! Just take allergy medicine like Allergra D. If she doesn't find any side effects before diving, it is going to be OK. I also talked with the allergy specialist about my diving. There is no issue at all. I hope it helps her situation.



Rogue Phoenix:
Hey guys I have a question I was hoping you could clear up for me. My girlfriend is about to take the basic open water scuba course for her certification but she kinda has allergies. Stuff like pollen and pet dander gets to her if she's around too much. They aren't real bad but she usually has a kinda runny stuffy nose. Is it safe for her to dive? Would she be able to take some kind of decongestant? I know this pry seems like a stupid question but I've been outta the water for a while and can't remember wether or not this would cause a problem. Thanks everyone.
 
Thanks a lot man, I was hoping to hear that. Allegra was the kind of thing I meant by decongestant, guess I should have been a little clearer. Thanks again.
 
hoosier:
No decongestant! Just take allergy medicine like Allergra D.

I'll try to clear things up for ya, The "D" IS the decongestant. :wink: Another example is Claritin D. Both these medications are a combination of Antihistamine and decongestant. One unplugs ya and the other dry's ya up. I personally prefer the Claritin D over the Allegra D. For me it just seems to work a little better. It's also available over the counter now and its cheap. Ken :42:
 
Rogue Phoenix:
Thanks a lot man, I was hoping to hear that. Allegra was the kind of thing I meant by decongestant, guess I should have been a little clearer. Thanks again.


I have never had Allergies before, till I moved here. Now every Spring and Fall I take Allegra D and Flonase. It does not effect my diving at all, but I also make sure that I am not congested before going diving. The Allegra D dries you up and the Flonase keeps the allergies away. It is a good combination, have a great time diving.
 
I too suffer from mild hayfever, which is not an issue when diving in the Red Sea due to lack of vegetation. However when I started dabbling in a little UK stuff last year, suddenly realised this could be an issue in our pollen laden countryside. Thankfully you will find very little pollen or pet dust in the air we breathe underwater, however the trick is to avoid getting an allergic reaction before you get in the water.

It is true, you must not dive while congested, so prevention is definitely the best option. However as has been stated above, avoid medications containing decongestants as these dry you out, and can wear off during a dive. I am guessing that the "D" in these product names describes the decongestant. You may want to try the basic Allergan or Clarytin instead. Do double check to see which medications are OK under pressure, and definitely avoid any that are going to make you drowsy. You will find that most modern antihistamines have a non-drowsy version.

Here is a handy site that you might want to visit: http://www.e-med.co.uk/diving/FAQ_dive_questions.html for medical information and questions, Dr Jules Eden is highly qualified in both diving and the medical profession (in fact he did my HSE diving medical) so you can rest assured the information is valuable.

This is a very common concern with divers and easily resolved, so it shouldn't stop your girlfriend from diving.
 
Rogue Phoenix:
Hey guys I have a question I was hoping you could clear up for me. My girlfriend is about to take the basic open water scuba course for her certification but she kinda has allergies. Stuff like pollen and pet dander gets to her if she's around too much. They aren't real bad but she usually has a kinda runny stuffy nose. Is it safe for her to dive? Would she be able to take some kind of decongestant? I know this pry seems like a stupid question but I've been outta the water for a while and can't remember wether or not this would cause a problem. Thanks everyone.

Hey, everyone...

I agree with the above, wanted to add a few points (I'm an ENT doc)...

As most of you probably know, a squeeze is caused when increasing air pressure in the airway with descent (regulated by the first and second stages) can't make it into the ear or sinuses. This is because the pathway to the ears and sinuses are (simplistically) thin tubes lined with mucosa (the lining of the mouth, nose, etc..). Some people have intrinsic problems with these tubes, not related to any acute illness. These people generally have bad ear or sinus disease, and most don't become divers. Other people have some transient condition (usually allergies, sinusitis or a cold) which makes the mucosa swell, and blocks the pathway to the ear or the sinuses.

There is this concept that you should not use decongestants while diving, since they can wear off during a dive. This could cause a reverse squeeze (sinus or ear pain on ascent), which is more dangeous than a regular squeeze (pain on descent). With a reverse squeeze, you may not have the air to wait it out or go slow. Furthermore, you obviouosly can't abort an ascent! As the pilots say: "takeoff is optional, landing is mandatory.".

However, many people do safely use these drugs and dive (especially limited, recreational diving). When faced with missing a trip to a beautiful shallow tropical reef on the only week of vacation you are going to get in a year, people will load up on whatever is available to try to save the dive. Can't say that I haven't done this myself!

SO, what I recommend (and this does not constitute any medical recommendation for any particular patient!) is to see how easily you can equalize before any dive, and let that be the thing that decides whether to go or not. It should be apparent pretty quickly whether this is going to be possible for you, since you double your pressure in the first 33 feet. Even just free diving to the bottom of a swimming pool should let you know if you are going to be able to equalize on a dive.

As far as specific medications:

1) Decongestants- OK for SHORT TERM use (less than three days), they come as oral (like Sudafed) and nasal (like Afrin). Sudafed helps with the sinuses and the ears, Afrin just with the sinuses. Not a great long term solution for allergies. As mentioned above, sometimes come combined with other drugs like antihistamines.

2) Antihistamines
a) first generation (Benadryl). causes drowsiness, not used as much for this.
b) second generation (Allegra, Zyrtec, Claritin). Better, but can still cause some drowsiness. Also pretty drying.

3) Singulaire- new allergy medicine, similar to antihistamines, it blocks the cascade of chemicals that cause allergy symptoms

4) Nasal steroids (Flonase, Nasonex, etc..) pretty safe, take a week or so to work, helps keep the sinus drainage pathways open, don't do anything for the ears, may cause local symptoms (like nosebleeds)

5) Nasalcrom- a nasal spray that helps block allergy attacks by stabilizing certain cells involved with the allergic response. Need to be taking it before the attack.

6) Astelin- an antihistamine in nasal spray form

7) Antibiotics- used for sinus infections (foul, runny nose) along with other therapy.

8) Nasal irrigation- this is great... very safe, cheap and effective. I recommend this all the time for people with chronic nasal problems. May not be enough by itself, but a good addition to other therapy- http://www.neilmed.com/


Happy Diving!

Mike
 
Thanks for all the help. I'll pass it on to her.
 
As an alergy "victim" myself, here's how it affects my diving. I'm alergic to various pollens, mold, etc. (including some components of dark chocolate and dark beers (Guiness will make me sneeze)). The symptoms are generally not worth medicating (and it doesn't keep me from enjoying Guiness either :coke:) Since I don't encounter these allergens underwater or in my regulated air, they haven't (yet) affected my diving plans. There have been a couple times when I seriously wondered whether I'd be calling off a dive, but equalization hasn't been an issue so dives have proceeded!

-Rob
 
rab:
As an alergy "victim" myself, here's how it affects my diving. I'm alergic to various pollens, mold, etc. (including some components of dark chocolate and dark beers (Guiness will make me sneeze)). The symptoms are generally not worth medicating (and it doesn't keep me from enjoying Guiness either :coke:) Since I don't encounter these allergens underwater or in my regulated air, they haven't (yet) affected my diving plans. There have been a couple times when I seriously wondered whether I'd be calling off a dive, but equalization hasn't been an issue so dives have proceeded!

-Rob

Good point, but it can take a while for allergy symptoms to resolve, even after removing yourself from the trigger. Most people going to tropical dive locations aren't necessarily exposed to the same plant pollens, etc... that they have been sensitized to at home, so that works in your favor. Jersey shore divers have to deal with their own home grown allergies as best as they can...!
 
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