Hi lazybees,
Glad the trip went well for you.
RE:
Like with any other physical ailment, we were mum with any dive shops and kept a shirt on anytime the port would have been obvious as a conversation piece. So, any of you doing chemo, wanting to dive....talk with your doctor. My doctor was totally OK with it and it worked out well for me. My meds were not contraindicated to the activity. Yours could be different.
. The following may be worth a read:
"Are you untruthful when completing diving medical questionnaires?
[The below is courtesy of the Jan '10 issue of
Undercurrent Scuba Diving Magazine, Undercurrent Reviews Dive Resorts, Liveaboards, & Diving Gear. I took this position because it was my assignment, but yet agree it's a topic open to lively debate.]
The World Recreational Training Scuba Council (
WRSTC :: World Recreational Scuba Training Council), of which PADI, SSI, SDI, IDEA, ACUC and DAN, amongst others, are members, is dedicated to the worldwide safety of the recreational diving public. It encourages members to use a standard medical statement before offering training or diving (
http://www.wrstc.com/downloads/RSTCMedStatementGeneric.pdf).
The below is courtesy of the Jan '10 issue of Undercurrent. I took this position because it was my assignment, but yet agree it's a topic open to lively debate.
"Lying About Your Health Could Be Lethal -- our medical expert tells you why you shouldnt fib to dive shops
Last month, we published reader comments about how much, if any, health information you disclose on the dive shop medical questionnaire. A surprising number of you say you keep mum. I saw many of the reasons you gave for why as having merit. DocVikingo, a frequent Undercurrent contributor, is less inclined to accept such untruthfulness. Heres his opinion:
Scuba diving, perceived by much of the non-diving public as risky if not outright dangerous, has avoided government meddling to an astonishing degree. Regulation by federal, state and local governments has been avoided largely because the dive industry polices itself. This includes common practices like asking divers to complete a medical history questionnaire before training or a taking a dive trip. This self-policing has benefited divers by giving them freedom to dive whenever, however and with whomever they choose. Much of this is obviously due to divers adhering to industry practices. But when it comes to being forthright in completing medical questionnaires, its sometimes a different story.
When Undercurrent asked readers about whether they disclose medical conditions to dive operators, a surprising number of you replied that you didnt, for fear of an operator not permitting you to dive. But Im with much of the dive industry and medical experts in believing its a mistake not to tell the truth about your health. It could cost you your life, and possibly the lives of the buddies and guides youre diving with.
The risks are real. For example, Divers Alert Networks annual report on dive-related accidents and deaths routinely indicates that cardiovascular events cause 20 to 30 percent of all fatalities. Moreover, medications like tranquilizers, antidepressants and narcotic pain relievers and certain cardiac and respiratory drugs that cause no problems topside may act differently at depth, and may combine with or increase nitrogen narcosis, resulting in significantly impaired thinking and behavioral control.
The Divers Responsibility, not the Dive Centers
Consider this tale sent in by an Undercurrent reader about a Bahamas dive he did last June. One of his fellow divers was a 68-year-old woman who looked physically fit and at least a decade younger. However, during the first dive, one of the divemasters had approached her at 75 feet, motioning for her to ascend a bit but she kept descending. At 100 feet, the divemaster physically tried to force the woman to ascend but was pushed away. He partially inflated the womans BCD but she immediately dumped the air through her shoulder valve. Another divemaster then descended to 170 feet and could see the womans bubble line starting well below his depth. He used the backup tanks suspended below the boat to decompress from the extreme depth. The womans body was never found.
Our reader later learned through a mutual acquaintance that the woman had had a minor stroke the month before that Bahamas dive. There has been considerable speculation about the cause of her actions and subsequent disappearance, he wrote us. While we may never know for certain, the leading theories are that she either got nitrogen narcosis at 70 feet, or suffered a stroke and became confused and disoriented. If she had a transient. ischemic attack, or TIA, (a warning stroke or mini-stroke that produces stroke-like symptoms but no lasting damage.) the month prior, my medical friends indicate it is dubious she would have received a physicians clearance to dive. There are generally other underlying medical issues, and a greatly increased risk of suffering another stroke after a minor TIA stroke.
Out of curiosity, our reader e-mailed PADI and asked about its fitness-to-dive policy. The reply: While dive students are required to complete a medical history questionnaire before participating in any PADI courses, PADI diving facilities are not required to medically screen all of their customers. Divers learn during their training that, after certification, they must always ensure that they are medically fit for diving before doing so. This is the divers responsibility rather than the dive centers.
Because so many of you readers admit that you are untruthful on the medical release, we wondered if dive medicine experts did the same, just to avoid the hassle of dealing with dive operators who have far less medical knowledge. Ern Campbell, M.D., a.k.a. ScubaDoc, said that even if he had a condition he feared may prevent a dive operation from taking him on board, he still would disclose the condition to the operator and expect an appropriate explanation of any denial to dive. Dr. Michael Bennett, president of the South Pacific Underwater Medicine Society, told us: I believe the medical risks of diving are real and present a threat to my well-being. Therefore, I would not be selfish enough to cheat and put my fellow divers at risk when they might be called upon to save me!
Drugs Work Differently Underwater
Common reader statements we received included, Im capable of monitoring my own medical problems and I dont pose a danger. In many cases, such assertions are not accurate. For example, common conditions like asthma, diabetes and seizures may appear well-managed but can unexpectedly and rapidly spiral out of control. When they do so underwater, the results can be deadly. The altered environment in diving (e.g., water thats cooler than body temperature, exertion, increased partial pressures of gases) can precipitate relapses. The fact is the potential effects of such changes upon most medical conditions -- and the drugs used to control them -- are not known with certainty.
Other readers responded along the lines of, What does the dive op know about the implications of my medical issues for scuba? The answer is, Probably very little. This is why the shop can quite reasonably ask you to report your medical status, and may require a signed clearance to dive from a physician who does understand the implications. Remember, if a dive crew is unaware of your medical disorders, appropriate treatment could be substantially delayed.
In a related vein, some readers believed that a dive operator asking for such personal information was in violation of their right to medical privacy. Actually, it isnt. The privacy provisions of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) are binding on healthcare insurers, providers and facilities, not dive operators and training agencies. You voluntarily waive your right to keep your medical information private when you contract for dive certification or a two-tank dive. It is the operators perfect right to ask the diver to be honest regarding medical conditions that could mean additional risks to the business, other customers and the diver himself. There is nothing illegal, unethical or inappropriate about this. From a liability standpoint, dive businesses would be insane not to.
Youre not the Only Diver on the Boat
Perhaps the lamest of the excuses was, Its my life and my choice to dive with a disease. This might be arguable if you are an unemployed solo diver without family or friends. However, if you are diving with a dive operator and other customers, then your fitness to dive most assuredly is of concern to them.
When you are less than honest in revealing your medical status, not only could you as the diver be harmed, but so could your buddy, divemaster or others who risk their lives to save yours. Karl Huggins, program director of the University of Southern Californias Catalina Hyperbaric Chamber, says that if individuals ... knowingly conceal these conditions once they know what the risks are, its not just themselves theyre putting at risk but also those who may need to respond to them in an emergency situation. He goes on to say, Divers may rationalize that Its my life and I can assume any risk I want because the damage I do, I do to myself. But when theyre paralyzed and cant do their job or function normally in their work and personal lives, is it just themselves theyre affecting?
Not to mention that you could cause a dive trip to be aborted for everyone, possibly on an expensive liveaboard in a far-flung location, because the crew needs to rush you to medical care. Under these conditions, liveaboards make no refunds to any divers on the itinerary. If youre lucky enough not to expire from your previously undisclosed medical condition, you might be thrashed to death by the other passengers.
If and when enough divers lie, incidents will occur and they eventually will catch the governments eye. When that happens, laws will be passed, like requirements of medical exams before receiving dive training and mandatory completion of a medical history form in Australia, Malta and other locations. A number of preventable diver deaths due to medical reasons have occurred in Australias Queensland region over the past several years. Many were the result of divers being untruthful about their medical status and made news headlines. This resulted in the government considering even more rules and tighter enforcement. Do you want some random divers failure to disclose medical conditions that led to a dive accident or fatality to lead to tighter restrictions on your own dives?
You participate in recreational scuba on a voluntary basis. No one is forcing you to do it. Its a recreational pastime, a fun thing to do. If you dont like being asked to properly and truthfully complete a medical questionnaire, a practice intended to protect customers and the businesses that offer them scuba services, you dont have to participate. You can find diversions with rules that better suit you and dont require total disclosure of your medical history. Heaven knows there are dozens of them that dont put you and others in such a potentially hazardous situation. - - DocVikingo"
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Stay golden,
DocVikingo
