Soggy
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Yeah...I wouldn't really classify that as a "diving" accident...It's just an accident. He could've been driving his car and would have ended up just as dead.
Diving Accident in Plymouth today?
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Yeah...I wouldn't really classify that as a "diving" accident...It's just an accident. He could've been driving his car and would have ended up just as dead.
element
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The reality is that allmost divers are solo divers at times. You beter be prepared to look out for your self. If one diver is very more experianced than the other, he is basicly not going to get the support the other buddy is getting. I like to Lobster hunt alot when I do I am not paying attention to my buddy if I had one. He is now basicly solo diving. Even this last weekend I went for 4 dives by myself double checking my gear and setups. I prefer not to go below 60' when I am trully solo and I like to allways have help on shore. More than anything this should teach us about training, gear maintanace, and health.
Soggy
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You don't have to be. It depends on who you choose for buddies. There is a big difference between looking out for yourself (which you should do) and having no one around.
I lobster, too...and I still keep track of my buddy. All it takes is a quick glance every few seconds to keep track of where they are and notice if they seem in distress. If you lose track of them, you forget about the 5 lb lobster and find your buddy. Your lives are more important than dinner and it is possible to hunt and team dive at the same time.
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yak
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Well, from what I read about the RI diver, I think a buddy certainly would have been able to assist him, given the statement that he had surfaced and called for help.
In an OOA situation he might have panicked and not though to manually inflate his BCD when he surfaced, he might have punctured it, he might have snagged a line that was dragging him down. All these things might have not ended in death, had a buddy been there to help.
And this guy had "help" on shore...
In an OOA situation he might have panicked and not though to manually inflate his BCD when he surfaced, he might have punctured it, he might have snagged a line that was dragging him down. All these things might have not ended in death, had a buddy been there to help.
And this guy had "help" on shore...
My condolences.
I got certified there, dive there, meet people there... so sad to hear of anything bad happening there to people so close... solo diving is so dangerous... why didn't the people on the shore who saw him in trouble get help? I am confused about that...
I got certified there, dive there, meet people there... so sad to hear of anything bad happening there to people so close... solo diving is so dangerous... why didn't the people on the shore who saw him in trouble get help? I am confused about that...
eggman131
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I dove (my first ever as an OW!) with 3 Plymouth cops on Wednesday in the same spot he died (by the power plant, 1/2 mile offshore). Definitely a heart attack . . . and a little creepy when you're doing your first dive knowing someone had just died there . . . plus the 50 degree agua. I agree that it was most likely just an accident vs. a diving accident.
Actually, more than anything this should teach us not to dive solo and to improve our buddy skills....
LobstaMan
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Regarding the Plymouth incident, my information is that this 51 YO WM's immediate cause of death was drowning as a result of a accident while scuba diving. Now, that does not rule out a heart attack(or other medical emergency) underwater causing the man to become incapacitated/unconscious. He might then have inhaled enough water to cause drowning. In any event, he was discovered floating facedown in the water off a boat near the nuke plant. The folks on the boat brought the victim to the surface and found he was unresponsive. Subsequent CPR by civilians and medical personnel failed to revive him. I have no information regarding a dive buddy or group diving or any other specifics.
I would agree that, even though the official cause of death was drowning, this might be more acurately characterized as an accident and not a scuba diving accident. It wasn't like the man suffered a case of the bends from diving too deep, dove with bad equipment or pentrated a dangerous overhead environment unprepared, etc. It seems there's no 'lesson to be learned' from this diving death.
Keep the man and his family in your thoughts, he was a father, grandfather, reserve police officer and business owner.
LobstaMan
I would agree that, even though the official cause of death was drowning, this might be more acurately characterized as an accident and not a scuba diving accident. It wasn't like the man suffered a case of the bends from diving too deep, dove with bad equipment or pentrated a dangerous overhead environment unprepared, etc. It seems there's no 'lesson to be learned' from this diving death.
Keep the man and his family in your thoughts, he was a father, grandfather, reserve police officer and business owner.
LobstaMan
jeremiah2360
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When me and my friends go diving for lobsters we don`t want to ever see each other. The buddy diving thing never worked while lobstering. We tried at first but we would get distracted looking for lobsters, end up solo anyway while looking under rocks the other guy allready searched.
Now we make a point of staying apart, you go north, I`ll go south.(I saw you down there A-hole, check your compass next time!) I just make sure I have a knife, I`d never go without one. If I realized I forgot it I would abort the dive and go back to the boat and get it. I also use 3/4 electrical tape to make sure it does not fall out.
Wreck diving or deep water diving would be different, both a must for buddy diving.(we don`t go more than 30 feet)
Is this how you dive for lobsters? Just curious because thats how it evolved for us.
Diving since `84
Now we make a point of staying apart, you go north, I`ll go south.(I saw you down there A-hole, check your compass next time!) I just make sure I have a knife, I`d never go without one. If I realized I forgot it I would abort the dive and go back to the boat and get it. I also use 3/4 electrical tape to make sure it does not fall out.
Wreck diving or deep water diving would be different, both a must for buddy diving.(we don`t go more than 30 feet)
Is this how you dive for lobsters? Just curious because thats how it evolved for us.
Diving since `84
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yak
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Jeremiah,
Me an my buddy Jim can stay 15 feet apart and still work our own set of rocks. It allows us to communicate and ask for help when there's a bug that's proving hard to get. When lobstering without a buddy, you can't do the "double-scoop" - where you team up on those stubborn bugs in a deep hole. We slide our tickle sticks in on each side and scoop the bug out at the same time.
Besides, if you stay together then only one guy has to haul a flag.
Me an my buddy Jim can stay 15 feet apart and still work our own set of rocks. It allows us to communicate and ask for help when there's a bug that's proving hard to get. When lobstering without a buddy, you can't do the "double-scoop" - where you team up on those stubborn bugs in a deep hole. We slide our tickle sticks in on each side and scoop the bug out at the same time.
Besides, if you stay together then only one guy has to haul a flag.
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