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Diver dies on 60m deep air dive

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by Griffo, Jul 16, 2019.

  1. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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    I think we've learned a lot since deep air and no backups were the norm. And I really dont think poorly of the divers who made those dives decades ago. There are better, safer, and readily available options these days.
    :)
     
  2. Frosty

    Frosty Divemaster

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    Has the actual cause of death been established ? --Maybe I missed it but all Ive seen so far is lots of theories.
    Outa gas? medical issue?
     
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  3. iain/hsm

    iain/hsm Manta Ray

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    Using a rented 12 lire air cylinder on a new diver for a 50 MSW air dive sounds like a stunt dive gone wrong. Lucky the twinset pair with her didn’t end up on manslaughter charges.

    It would also be interesting to know what if a detailed gas spec analysis was done on the air purity, assuming it wasn’t nitrox.

    The centre was also in the papers a month earlier for miss leading customers claiming that the The National Diving and Activity Centre NDAC was an accredited PADI 5 star instructor dive centre. They are not.

    Also the same time the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents RoSPA also claimed they misled customers that they were members of this national safety organization. Fortunate for them I guess they also are not. The article below :
    Dive centre 'may have potentially misled' over RoSPA membership
     
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  4. mafi

    mafi Divemaster

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    Any research supporting 140/l min as recommended value?
     
  5. iain/hsm

    iain/hsm Manta Ray

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    Unfortunatly this was a new diver with a rented single cyinder tank, on air and never been that deep before.

    MParker on post 6 made an excellent point
    Some personal choice.
     
  6. Efka76

    Efka76 Barracuda

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    I am wondering why people behave so irresponsibly. Currently there are various reaserches available who demonstrate that very deep diving on air is not safe. I understand that some people want to be matchos and want to show off, however, in this case you are risking your own life.

    I did not find information that this diver went to 60 m with single 12L cylinder, however, to go to such depth I would expect that diver is: 1) Certified trimix diver 2) has up to date and not rusty skills 3) Has appropriate equipment and corrct & sufficient gas (twinset with trimix) and deco gas. 4) has a good health.

    It seems that with this Polish diver some of important factors were omitted and this resulted in death. Unfortunately such depth is not very forgiving even small mistakes.
     
  7. kelemvor

    kelemvor Big Fleshy Monster ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Why all the hubub about gas mix? The article made it sound like a heart attack. Did I misread?
     
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  8. electric_diver

    electric_diver Barracuda

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    I had never noticed the increased gas density issue before on deep air dives so I watched out for it on last nights dive. Still didn't notice it even though I was looking for it. St. Lawrence river, 160 feet, occasionally swimming against ~2knot current in full tech gear with 2 stages.

    I think, just like almost everything else in diving, it can be an issue for some but not for others. So it is inappropriate to make blanket statements
     
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  9. Efka76

    Efka76 Barracuda

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    All divers are affected by gas narcosis, however, divers have different body composition, fitness level. also, some divers are more experienced and have muscle memory which helps in better solving issues deep under water. Accordingly, you might have an impression that you are not affected by narcosis.
     
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  10. electric_diver

    electric_diver Barracuda

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    I was not writing about narcosis. My comments were strictly limited to gas density.
     
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