Dive Rite XT vs Hog d3 zenith... Cold water.

[tbone1004]

there are some differences in the barrel IIRC but the case itself is the same.

regarding lock-tite remember that the sherwood manifolds called for it too. I wouldn't worry about using it personally

 

[cliffoco]

we (Deep 6) are doing a demo day next weekend in Brockville Ontario, drop by if you are in the area and look at our new regs

PMD... I guess now I should be asking Deep 6 VS HOG VS Diverite

my poseidons have a separate ring that holds the DIN o-ring in so it can't come out

@cliffoco are you saying you already have regs but you want to buy new ones because they need to be serviced? Saying Divers Supply I assume you are talking about HOG's, so which ones do you have now?

Yes.... My regs now are Sea Elite - which my LDS won't touch so would have to go back to Divers supply and the cost of service + shipping would be about what I bought the reg for

 

[Caveeagle]

regarding lock-tite remember that the sherwood manifolds called for it too. I wouldn't worry about using it personally

So you think it is ok to use? lock-tite on a HOG 1st stage? (as in the Dive Rite manual)?

Not that I don't think the problem is avoidable, but this issue seems to pop up enough that HOG put out a youtube vid on it. So, if a small dab of LT would help... why not?

 

[tbone1004]

I personally wouldn't worry about it, others may, but I think the real solution is not to turn the first stage when under pressure. The other would be to evaluate the durometer of that o-ring and change it so it puts more pressure on the threads to keep it in one place.

 

[runsongas]

So the Dive Rite is 499 (+ tax) (CAD) and the HOG is 405 + Tax (CAD) I didn't want the 100$ to really effect the choice. I am looking for a reg that will be reliable, right now I have a set of sealed cheapy regs from Sea Elite and to be honest I have not gotten a free flow once, they breath easy and have lasted me over 6.5 years (and still work fine) It is just I am getting to the point where I am starting to get a little leery of the equipment at depth where its colder. A lot of the current dives are warm water (st. lawrence river ) and I feel confident with these regs under those conditions.
For me I am buying new ones for reliability in cold water. I would be getting both sealed, I am just wondering if its worth the extra 100 or would it better spent somewhere else. I have heard ONLY good things about HOG until I called the guy who sells them :S

if you have the sea elite rx650 already, you aren't going to see a dramatic difference in performance. only reason to get more regs would be to go for doubles.

 

[cliffoco]

if you have the sea elite rx650 already, you aren't going to see a dramatic difference in performance. only reason to get more regs would be to go for doubles.

Although an increase in reg quality is a nice bonus - the biggest reason for new regs is I cant get a service kit and this reg has over 6 years of dives on it un serviced (although I did re lubricate the second stage and inspect it) I could get it serviced for 100 or so dollars but I am sure the Deep 6 or Hogs would be better and at least I could get service kits going forward and it comes with some peace of mind knowing that so many other divers use them.

 

[runsongas]

Although an increase in reg quality is a nice bonus - the biggest reason for new regs is I cant get a service kit and this reg has over 6 years of dives on it un serviced (although I did re lubricate the second stage and inspect it) I could get it serviced for 100 or so dollars but I am sure the Deep 6 or Hogs would be better and at least I could get service kits going forward and it comes with some peace of mind knowing that so many other divers use them.

there is a good chance the hog kit or the old dive rite rg1200 kit would fit your sea elite. iirc the sea elites are rebadged ods regs.

 

[grf88]

Divers Supply list the 1st stage service kit on their website:
Sea Elite RX650 1st Stage Service Parts Kit

 

[buddhasummer]

bull... HOG regs have been extensively used in cold water diving. Plus, having put the HOG regs and the XT on a antsi the claim the XT breaths better is not what I have seen... the new Deep 6 breaths better than both however. (that said the XT and the HOG are strong performers)

No bias of course...just playing...

 

[cerich]

No bias of course...just playing...

oh sure I have bias, don't try to hide it but if I wasn't sure, i wouldn't say a thing.. the facts are that it's easy to test the truth of it