Dive logging - basic question

[scubajb]

OK, I am sure I know the answer to this but was told differently by another instructor recently so I thought I'd ask.

Where I live (and not owning a drysuit), our winter diving is restricted to the local pool. I bet we dive two to three times a month there - we work and play a lot on different skills. I was told when I was OW certified that the only dives that we log are OW dives. Pool dives didn't count. I was speaking with another instructor a few weeks back and he told me that I should be logging all dives, including pool dives.

??? Not a big deal but just wondering what the rule is.

Thanks!
Jim

 

[El Orans]

This topic has been discussed several times. You may want to do a

In the mean time, I don't log pool dives unless they're here: nemo 33 : WELCOME EVERYBODY ! ...

Here's one of the other threads: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ne...diving/202259-what-do-you-bother-logging.html

 

[scubajb]

What a pool! Where is that?

 

[El Orans]

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/western-europe/56498-you-want-go-deep-very-deep-indoor-nemo33.html

 

[BlueC5Kitten]

Very cool...and for only 15,00€, that's very reasonably priced...now...how to get to Brussels economically... (although I do believe that 88°F is a tad warm for having to swim for 10 minutes, personally. I get warm in the pool at the gym, and that water is only 83°F!

BTW, I don't log pool dives either, unless it is a spring fed pool like out at Balmorhea State Park. 77,053 sq. ft. artesian spring pool!!!

 

[SelkieDVM]

I have made notes for myself in my logbook about pool dives if they are for training purposes but I don't give them a number so they're not counted in my total number of "logged" dives.

 

[Charlie99]

??? Not a big deal but just wondering what the rule is.

The "rule" is that if someone asks you about your experience level, for your own benefit you should give a reply that accurately portrays your experience level.

For most people, what works is to jot down a record and notes about your training dives in the pool if that helps you remember what you have or haven't practiced lately, but to not count pool dives when someone like a dive charter operator asks "How many lifetime dives?" or "When was your last dive?".

 

[Walter]

It's your log, so log what you want to log. Most of us keep a log of open water dives only and if you ever want tp show evidence of experience for future certifications, only open water dives will count. I know one lady who logs her pool dives, but doesn't include them in her total number of dives. Why are you logging and what do you want to track? It's a personal choice and no, Laurens, I wouldn't log a pool dive even in that pool, it's still a pool.

 

[El Orans]

It's a personal choice and no, Laurens, I wouldn't log a pool dive even in that pool, it's still a pool.

Like you said, it's a personal choice.

I'm not worried about any requirements regarding logged dives. AFAIK every number I'd need in the future, I already have. 60 for DM and 100 for IE.

Last time I looked I had 250+ open water dives, the five Nemo33 dives are not relevant in that regard.

Edit: I'd log this one as well.

 

[fisherdvm]

I've read here and there, bits and pieces. And it seems as followed:

Training pool dives are not loggable.
Training pool dives count.
Training OW dives are loggable.
Training OW dives do not count.
Only dives when you took your gears off, and replaced them afterward, before the next dive.
Only dives when the surface interval is greater than 5 minutes.
Only dives deeper than 20 ft.
Only dives deepter than 15 ft.
Only dives more than 15 minutes.
Only dives more than 20 minutes.
Only dives using more than 500 psi.
Any dives that you learn a skill or practice a skill.
SSI even count a snorkeling dive on the surface as a loggable dive.
Computer logged dives counts (even if it is just you jigging it off the side of the dock).
Unsigned logged dives count.
Fake dive pages count.
Then, it is not what you logged, it is what you know.

I learned a whole lot of alot in 1 pool dive with my instructor during DM training than I did 20 of my warm water tropical dives.

The way I see it, it is up to you whether or not you log a dive. I would log all dives if you made changes in your gear, suit, fin, or other configuration. Seems like once you've gotten past 100 dives, it really doesn't matter, as far as instructional rating is concerned.

Perhaps then you should really focus on logging deep dives, night dives, or other dives that you might need to earn credit toward a specialty, or for future training? You would definitely want to log a refresher course done in a pool, and specifically ask for the sticker to affix to your dive card and dive log book page. This might be required for a dive if you haven't dove for a while.