DIRF completed, forum question...

[cornfed]

At the same time, it is always a good idea to discuss issues that arise after any scuba experience to give others an idea of what perceptions were like.

I think the best place to address any grievances you have is with your instructors. Unless I am mistaken, your class was taught by Brando and MHK. I am absolutely certain that they want to know your feelings about the class. I exchanged emails with Brando several times since my class. I had some questions about my performance and he was very helpful. You should also consider addressing any issues you have with GUE. After completing your evaluation form you should have recieved an message from Dr. Panos Alexakos. If you reply to this message you'll be able to discuss things directly with Dr. Alexakos. I believe that everyone will be better served if you discuss your concerns with your instructors and GUE rather than on an internet bulletin board.

 

[FreeFloat]

That survey you refer to - you only get to do one if you pass?

 

[cornfed]

That survey you refer to - you only get to do one if you pass?

No, everyone who completed the class is supposed to complete the survey. PM me if you need the link and I'll see if I can dig it up.

 

[BCS]

That survey you refer to - you only get to do one if you pass?

No. all students will fill out an instructor evaluation. Or at least will be asked to fill one out.
Brad, please feel free to call me or e-mail me anytime at all. My e-mail and phone number are available on the GUE website. I am a bit troubled that you thought the equipment influences any evaluation we make. You fullfilled minimum equipment requirements and all of us use single tanks and wetsuits, quite often actually. I am very happy to discuss any concerns you may have and although everyone responding has only good intentions and are trying to help, they are without the ability to answer your question. Only myself, MHK, and Sonya can address any concern about your eval since we were there with you and we gave the eval. Please do not hesitate to ask us anything. I also encourage you to work on the skills and use what is taught in the class in the way of "how to train", I promise you that with some effort and time, you will improve and your diving will become that much easier, safer, and more enjoyable.

dive safe!----brando

 

[FreeFloat]

Well I'll be seeing my instructor tomorrow hopefully, perhaps I can ask him then.

 

[cornfed]

Well I'll be seeing my instructor tomorrow hopefully, perhaps I can ask him then.

If I remember correctly, the link is included in the confirmation message you recieved after registering.

 

[d33ps1x]

If I remember correctly, the link is included in the confirmation message you recieved after registering.

A few paragraphs down.

 

[WJL]

I agree with these comments and thank you for the response.
I think I need to be more clear on the question I am asking.
It is obvious that you simply dont show up with a drysuit and twins to pass DIR...thats just insulting peoples intelligence. What I am trying to say is that people who have managed a certain proficiency with a dry suit and twins have had years of experience in the water to get to this level. When a majority of these folks show up for class it makes one with a single wonder...gee, do I have the water experience needed to pass such a class.

Now lets look at this statistically speaking - I would bet that there is a significant correlation between divers with doubles who pass DIR courses as compared to divers with singles. Now, having made such a statement, I have absolutely no data to run a correlation to back up such a hypothesis up. BUT, if I had to put money on it, I would say yes. Damn, I smell a dissertation here...does GUE publish thier stats??

Brad, from my observations, having been involved in maybe half a dozen Fundamentals classes one way or another, I would bet that there is probably a lower pass rate for divers with doubles than for divers with singles.

The person who has the easiest time with the class is a newly certified diver in a wetsuit and a single tank who was trained "DIR" style in OW class and has a few dozen dives to get used to controlling his or her bouyancy. That person learned the skills taught in the Fundamentals class as the only way to dive, so the class is not introducing anything new and different. With a single tank and no drysuit, you have fewer equipment issues to sort out in the class.

The divers in doubles with hundreds or thousands of dives often have the hardest time in Fundamentals, because in most cases they are being asked to change the way they have been doing things for a long time. It is hardest to get out of the deepest ruts, particularly when you are pretty happy with the rut in the first place.

 

[FreeFloat]

If I remember correctly, the link is included in the confirmation message you recieved after registering.

Indeed it is, thanks guys.

 

[boomx5]

The divers in doubles with hundreds or thousands of dives often have the hardest time in Fundamentals, because in most cases they are being asked to change the way they have been doing things for a long time. It is hardest to get out of the deepest ruts, particularly when you are pretty happy with the rut in the first place.

I've seen instructors with hundreds of dive fail a fundamentals class. Alot of people think just because they don't have a ton of experience or hundreds of dives that they are going to have a harder time in the class.