DIR drysuit preference

[docmartin]

it looks like all DIR guys dive shell suits such as the dui 350. is DIR opposed to crushed or hypercompressed neoprene? if yes, for what reason. i can't imagine time to dry would be a DIR consideration. i am currently looking at drysuits and was wondering if there is some argument in the material debate that i missed.

 

[sheck33]

docmartin once bubbled...
it looks like all DIR guys dive shell suits such as the dui 350. is DIR opposed to crushed or hypercompressed neoprene? if yes, for what reason. i can't imagine time to dry would be a DIR consideration. i am currently looking at drysuits and was wondering if there is some argument in the material debate that i missed.

there is no drysuit material preference that i am aware of.
The reason i dive a shell suit is drytime and comfort but that has nothing to do with DIR versus non-DIR.

of course it must be black or you will die quickly

 

[jonnythan]

docmartin once bubbled...
it looks like all DIR guys dive shell suits such as the dui 350. is DIR opposed to crushed or hypercompressed neoprene? if yes, for what reason. i can't imagine time to dry would be a DIR consideration. i am currently looking at drysuits and was wondering if there is some argument in the material debate that i missed.

It depends on what DIR you listen to, really... there's George's DIR, JJ's DIR, GUE's DIR....

 

[scubajim1]

I just took a DIR Fundamentals course and Mike Kane did cover what to look for in a dry suit. I own a DUI dry suit and Mike pointed out a few things that he did not like about my DUI suit and others.

A few things to look for:
being able to reach your valves with the suit compressed.
How much extra material the suit has
Location of your valves input and dump
The list goes on....

I recommend taking the course and see for yourself. They made a point of not bashing any particular suit or maker. They did point out the pros and cons of each suit. I found the course to be very informative and I would highly recommend it.

 

[omar]

neoprene even crushed or compressed will compress at depth and lead to a change in buoyancy. Because of this a shell suit is the preferred DIR material.

omar

 

[sheck33]

omar once bubbled...
neoprene even crushed or compressed will compress at depth and lead to a change in buoyancy. Because of this a shell suit is the preferred DIR material.

omar

but using a (crushed) neoprene suit doesnt make you 'non-DIR'
both are just fine, it is more of a personal preference rather than anything else.

 

[omar]

I don't like to do this but...

"There are only two reasons anyone buys neoprene dry suit: 1) they don't know any better, and 2) they are trying to get off on the cheap." G. Irvine
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?25093,subject

For GUE DIR who cares?

 

[docmartin]

well, well, i was specifically talking about crushed/ hypercompressed neoprene. if G. Irvine really said that about this type of neoprene (which i doubt) he may want to look at the dui price list to discover that the crushed neoprene is the most expensive.

 

[sheck33]

omar once bubbled...
I don't like to do this but...

"There are only two reasons anyone buys neoprene dry suit: 1) they don't know any better, and 2) they are trying to get off on the cheap." G. Irvine
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?25093,subject

For GUE DIR who cares?

cheap? BS, crushed neoprene is expensive.
but i have to admit, i dont like neoprene but that is just MHO

 

[Laser]

scubajim1 once bubbled...
I just took a DIR Fundamentals course and Mike Kane did cover what to look for in a dry suit. I own a DUI dry suit and Mike pointed out a few things that he did not like about my DUI suit and others.

A few things to look for:
being able to reach your valves with the suit compressed.
How much extra material the suit has
Location of your valves input and dump
The list goes on....

I recommend taking the course and see for yourself. They made a point of not bashing any particular suit or maker. They did point out the pros and cons of each suit. I found the course to be very informative and I would highly recommend it.

Hey, you must have taken it with me at Haigh, so I know who you are because it was only me and you in drysuits.
That said, I thought my TLS 350 fit well also. It does, but not with respect to reaching my valves. He did mention the Diving Concepts suit that will have panels in the arm pits and down the legs that will allow for more freedom of movement I'm not sure whether this suit is available yet, and looking at the Diving Concepts site, I'm not sure which suit it would be so a phone call would be in order.
Pm me if you want to dive and practice.