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My dentist is recommending that I have a proceedure called an apicoectomy. Basically, there is some infection around the root of a tooth. My question is, how soon after this procedure can I go diving again? I am currently teaching a classroom/pool. Can I still teach in the pool the same week after this proceedure. Any information will be helpful.

Duane
 
jhnsndn:
My dentist is recommending that I have a proceedure called an apicoectomy. Basically, there is some infection around the root of a tooth. My question is, how soon after this procedure can I go diving again? I am currently teaching a classroom/pool. Can I still teach in the pool the same week after this proceedure. Any information will be helpful.

Duane

An apicoectomy is a surgical procedure involving removal of the tip of a tooth root. It bears no resemblance whatsoever to the situation Wolf Eel has described nor do the considerations largely overlap.

I have asked our diving dentist, Dr. Larry Stein, to respond.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
I had this procedure done 2 weeks before a trip to Australia in 2000. Within 5 weeks of the procedure I was diving intensively on a live-aboard trip for 3 days. No ill effects or pain was experienced at any point.

Had I discovered this forum or thought about the situation I may have reconsidered the timing. I was advised not to bite with my front teeth for 6-8 weeks as I had the four front bottom teeth repaired and lots of bone was removed. I don't believe the procedure leaves a space (i.e. root canal) but there may be potential for a squeeze.

Definitely get a dental opinion as my lack of ill effects may have been entirely due to pure dumb luck.
 
I will have this procedure done on tooth #14. I'm hoping that I will still be able to conduct classes in the pool within a week of this procedure.
 
wolf eel:
After thought I doubt their will be a hole and you should be able to dive within hours or I would be :D Thats not to say it is a good idea.
cheers

There may not be a hole, but will there be pain and swelling that will stop me from being able to hold my reg in my mouth?
 
I'm not Dental but I would think you would be OK. Just be clean to not get it infected and you should be GTG.
I have a broblem with Blowing my teeth out. I have poped a filling twice now I am not sure if it from diving air or 100%O2 but it was like a reverse squeeze then POP relief. and the taste of lead. Wild hehe
 
I saw the oral surgeon this afternoon. He can't do the apico on me since it is on the inside of an upper molar. He said I have two options. One, get the root canal redone. Two, get the tooth extracted. I talked to my dentist about my options. He is now recommending that I get the tooth extracted. He said that about 50%-75% of second root canals succeed and with my condition (I'm an insulin dependent diabetic) that success rate would drop even more.

So I think I will go with the extraction. I'm comtemplating on having an implant. My dentist said he has a few scuba diving patients with implants and they have not problems. Has anyone here heard of any one having problems with tooth implants and diving?

Thanks.

Duane
 
jhnsndn:
My dentist is recommending that I have a proceedure called an apicoectomy. Basically, there is some infection around the root of a tooth. My question is, how soon after this procedure can I go diving again? I am currently teaching a classroom/pool. Can I still teach in the pool the same week after this proceedure. Any information will be helpful.

Duane

Hey Duane. Man, I'd better answer this before Wolf Eel fixes you tooth for good! :) He seems a bit wild to me!

OK. Like DocVikingo said, an apicoectomy is a procedure in which the tip or tips of the roots of a tooth are removed. It may also be called a "surgical root canal". It is usually done to a tooth that has already had a conventional root canal and that treatment has not successfully eliminated the infection around the end of the offending tooth.

There are any number of reasons why a traditional root canal may fail...either immediately or years later. There may be extra or accessory canals which were not detected and filled, branching of the nerve canal may make complete removal of all infected material impossible, canals filled short of the apex, cysts or granulomas that do not respond to traditional treatment and must be physically removed in order for healing to continue.

Generally, a small incision is made into the gum over the tooth. Then a flap of gum is raised to reveal the bone that is immediately over the root tips. Often, the bone is missing or very soft over the infection site. This bone is removed to expose the root tip and this tip is then sectioned across the width of the root. The freed root tip is teased out and the infection/cyst is curretted. The gum is positioned over the bone and sutured to place.

Frequently, the remaining root has a tiny filling preparation created in the area of the center of each root. A filling made of dental alloy, SuperEBA cement or MTA cement is inserted into this preparation to help seal the nerve canal. This additional procedure is called a retrograde filling.

Tooth #14 is the maxillary (upper) left first permanent molar. It usually has 3 roots and 3 canals. However, about 30% have additional nerve canals that may be missed during traditional root canal therapy. This tooth has a somewhat higher root canal failure rate...probably because of the missed, unfilled canal(s). Not all missed canals will result in failure.

There are usually two roots on the cheek side of the tooth (buccal) and one on the palate (palatal). Apicoectomy for this tooth MAY require that a flap is raised on both sides of the tooth...especially if the infected lesion cannot be identified or located. Obviously this makes the surgery more complicated.

Tooth #14 frequently approximates the maxillary sinus so this can become a complicating factor during the surgery.

OK, now that I've grossed you out and increased the anxiety level...Postoperatively, there is usually some soreness...both in the gum from the incisions and in the tooth because it has just had part of it's roots removed. The prescription medication usually work well. You'll want to eat on the other side for a while. Keep ice on the face and possibly expect a bruise. (Rather common for this kind of surgery). You don't want to disturb the sutures during the first week or so. Stay away from carbonated drinks and alcohol for the first few days and no alcohol as long as you are taking prescription medications. No drinking through straws for several days...the vacuum can cause problems with the site. Report any sinus problems or congestion in the event there is sinus proximity during the surgery.

The space left behind by the surgery will quickly fill with blood and form a clot. This clot will organize rapidly to form capillaries and then form bone.

I would recommend waiting at least 2 weeks and up to 6 weeks before diving again. Part of the wait period depends on the maxillary sinus proximity so ask your surgeon.

There will NOT be an air filled space in the properly healing surgical site but you would want to at least have the blood vessels forming. This takes several weeks.

You also have to be able to hold the regulator in your mouth comfortably. If the tabs rub the surgical site, wait to dive. If your tooth is sore to biting pressure, wait. It you are still taking medication for pain or infection, I would recommend waiting.

As long as you are comfortable and free of infection, two weeks may be all you need.

Hope this helps.


Laurence Stein, DDS
 
Laurence Stein DDS:
Generally, a small incision is made into the gum over the tooth. Then a flap of gum is raised to reveal the bone that is immediately over the root tips. Often, the bone is missing or very soft over the infection site. This bone is removed to expose the root tip and this tip is then sectioned across the width of the root. The freed root tip is teased out and the infection/cyst is curretted. The gum is positioned over the bone and sutured to place.

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The space left behind by the surgery will quickly fill with blood and form a clot. This clot will organize rapidly to form capillaries and then form bone.

I would recommend waiting at least 2 weeks and up to 6 weeks before diving again. Part of the wait period depends on the maxillary sinus proximity so ask your surgeon.

So that's what I had done! Thanks Doc for clearing up what I thought was a confusing procedure.

I take it back - I am sure that my lack of problems were due to sheer dumb luck. At least it fixed the problem, I think. I could be sure if I went back to see a dentist but that would probably result in more discoveries and procedures.
 
wolf eel:
Maybe just a little. :uptosome: i've just had so much dental work done that after awhile I just went diving. The dentist never said it was a great idea. I am healthy and seem to heal fast so I do not worry as much as I should.
Now you have the word. This is gospel.
Derek


Gospel! Oh Jeez! This stuff is for information only. Consult with your doctor/dentist prior to diving. You may also want to contact Wolf EEl for alternate treatment recommendations. :)

Larry Stein
 

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