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Mike Matthews

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Any ideas on where North Calif ends and Southern calif begins? This is strictly a reserch question.
 
Mike Matthews:
Any ideas on where North Calif ends and Southern calif begins? This is strictly a reserch question.

For purposes of this board, we divided it at about SLO / Monterey.

Now, being a lifelong SoCal - you can check here for a proper non-ScubaBoard endorsed Geography Lession.


Sometimes, its just too easy....

K
 
As a diver I view Monterey as norcal.
As a conservative resident of the Bay Area I veiw the Bay Area as it's own twisted entity.
True norcal really begins about 90 or so minutes north of the Bay.
 
As I lifelong SoCal resident I consider anything north of the mountain passes (Gaviota Pass if on US 101, the "Grapevine" if on I-5, or Cajon Pass on the I-15 side) to be NOT Southern California.

What's harder to define is the difference between Central and Northern California. Nobody will dispute cities such as Bakersfield or Fresno being in Central California, but what about Sacramento? If that's part of Central California (and it should be as it's at the northern end of the Central Valley) then what about San Francisco? It's slightly south of Sac-town but most people consider that region to be "Northern."

You are correct in that the San Francisco Bay region is its own "twisted entity" (and my condolences for being so politically outnumbered).

As far as the northernmost part of the state we should saw it off and give it away to Oregon ;)
 
Mike Matthews:
Any ideas on where North Calif ends and Southern calif begins? This is strictly a reserch question.

You are doing research on where the dividing line is? And, you don't account for a Central Cal, but seem to only provide Northern and Southern Cal as the only available options?

Well, Hmmmmmmmm

I guess I'd have to say that SB is about right in that Monterey is No. Cal, and I'd also say SLO is So. cal.

The diving line is somewhere in between....heh

:banana:
 
As a Nrthern Calif native we always defined the North Part of the State as being above Santa Rosa, Below Santa Rosa to south of SF as Central, and the rest was on its own. :o)
 
Morro Beach is my notion of Southern California diving, and that is fairly close to Obispo. San Simeon has dive sites, which are more akin to northern California's rough and cold water diving than it is to southern California's calm and warmer (a little) waters. Therefore Piedras Blancas being a bit north of Obispo, and not taking in San Simeon, would not be a good dividing line for me.

The coastal waters change the most dramatically at Point Concepcion, which is way south of Obisbo and south of Morro and Pismo as well. But I still think of Obispo and as southern Cal, having grown up here in northern Cal, and having had San Luis fed to me most of my life as the dividing line.

If the southern Cal voters continue to endorse and support unqualified political candidates for public office, such as those who come here from out of state and are trying to become carpetbagging squatters here (Huffington), or who are mere high school graduates who never spent a day in college nor took a single economics course (Schwartzennegger), then we are going to have to divide the state sooner than expected. I can live with losing San Luis to the mindless politics of So Calif.
 
Mike Matthews:
As a Nrthern Calif native we always defined the North Part of the State as being above Santa Rosa, Below Santa Rosa to south of SF as Central, and the rest was on its own. :o)

The River Road, a beautiful drive, to the coast, along the Russian River, to Jenner. That would be a bit extreme, however. The Love Generation of San Francisco and their wacky ways truly belong up here in the North, however, where weed grows wild.
 

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