A ScubaBoard Staff Message...
It may be appropriate to remind the participants in this thread about some rules and guidelines for the A&I forum:
Someone has died or been injured. Please show the proper dignity, etiquette and refrain from any demeaning remarks. We discourage the family from reading these threads, but you can bet they still will. Let's be civil, sensitive and still remain relevant. This forum is only intended for learning and
not assigning blame.
Special Rules for the Accidents and Incidents Forum
Mishap analysis doesn't waste time asking "what was he thinking?" either, but rather asks "what did he do?" We can agonize all day long about why Joe didn't ditch his weights when ditching his weights would have saved him, but it doesn't really matter. The action that will prevent a repeat of Joe's mishap is "ditch weights."
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What we're trying to do in the A&I forum is to provide a forum for a Safety type analysis of mishaps; to identify actions that lead to mishaps and actions that can prevent mishaps. The mishap analysis mindset is difficult for those who lack formal training in it, as our natural tendencies are to find out who or what to blame and seek justice.
Mishap analysis & "Blamestorming"
And finally,
bowlofpetunias' excellent post about the
Victim perspective:
It is great to say "the family should not read this thread--they should go to the condolences thread." Some people post insensitive comments as if that disclaimer makes everything fair game. Well the loved ones were WARNED not to read them so if they don't heed the warning... The impact on the survivors is seen as less significant than the need/right to dissect the event for their own purposes.
I can tell you that the family is and will be reading the discussion at the time they are the most raw trying to find answers and come to grips with their loss.
That said,
@michaela s , there is another aspect to the A&I forum: The main purpose of the discussions here is to find lessons we can apply to our own diving and improve the safety of our own diving. When information is scarce, it's natural to speculate. That may be appropriate, but it may also be inappropriate depending on the way we speculate. That balance isn't always easy to find, and some posts may seem overly harsh to those directly involved with a fatality even if they aren't necessary intended that way. There's a fine line here, and not even the moderators are always successful in seeing where that line goes. I want you to use the report button if there are posts that in your opinion violate
the rules for the A&I forum, and I'd like to remind you that the best cure against speculation is factual information. If you have relevant information to share, that will help the Scubaboard community to understand what caused the loss of your husband's life and hopefully lessen the risks of something similar happening to other divers.
Thank you for joining us, and my sincere condolences for your loss.