Dabbling in deco

[TSandM]

Thanks for the link -- I clicked it, because it would be so much easier to recommend the book to others if it were available electronically.

BTW, I agree that the "Six Skills" book is an excellent resource for both technical and more ambitious recreational divers. I didn't mention it because the OP specifically asked about information on decompression.

 

[Bombay High]

Thanks for the book plug! LOL

By the way, Six Skills was available for a short time in a Kindle addition but the files became corrupted in the transfer and we have not got that sorted yet.

Steve - I bought the Kindle edition as part of my 'ahem' prep before you came here ... the book is very scrambled in the Kindle edition. I hope to borrow Robs once he is done with it.

 

[Panama Jones]

At the moment I'm a rec diver who in about 2 weeks is doing a tdi sidemount course then the advanced nitrox. The plan for me is to do the deco course with tdi through the kind guys at dive dive dive (great online shop now - cheap plug). I don't have a lot of buddies who are keen to do the deco tec dives but for my own knowledge and fun I'd like to do it with the aim of one to two good tec deco dives a year the rest being rec dives. Is there any good resources, online courses or websites anyone can recommend to get my head clearly around the theory and guts of the decompression before I undertake the course. I'd love to have a real good hold on it before diving it.

Thoughts or input??

Hi Johnny - Just curious...are you really 0 - 24 dives or is that not updated?

 

[BVickery]

Hi Johnny - Just curious...are you really 0 - 24 dives or is that not updated?

I honestly don't think number of dives should be relevant if they want to go Tec or not. By this I mean if he knows he wants to do it, he can properly lay out a plan to get this done properly. If he is planning on just jumping right into it as is, I would echo your concerns.

I already know at some point I want to be able to dive longer/deeper and though my current dives wouldn't allow me to possess the needed skills, they do serve a function, at least to a smart diver, of 'ok, what do I have to do to acquire these skills'. After reading posts by Steve, TSandM and others I realized to be a safe deep diver I really should have the theortics of Gas Management down pat. Will I take classes? Right now I plan to re-take a Nitrox class with more meat to it. I am gonna look at trying to get a copy of Deco for Divers as well as "The Six Skills" to have to review, so when I do take the more advanced deco classes I have that foundation to build on.

I belong/belonged to the Deco Stop and when I asked what I should do to prepare a lot of the people there suggested to get these books and read them, understand them. That other things I can do to help would to try and switch gear over (IE BP/W) and to really really work on trim, buoyancy and getting comfortable in the water. Most of all, do this by getting a mentor to help you on your way. I am the kind of person who prefers to be taught something once and be taught the proper way. If I am taught/practice a skill that's wrong my training/prep was for naught since the instructor/mentor first has to break me of the bad habit/improper skill and then train me properly.

 

[Panama Jones]

I honestly don't think number of dives should be relevant if they want to go Tec or not. By this I mean if he knows he wants to do it, he can properly lay out a plan to get this done properly. If he is planning on just jumping right into it as is, I would echo your concerns..

No disagreement whatsoever. I spend a lot of time reading on more advanced scuba topics with my relatively low number of dives simply because I'm a knowledge hound and also like to apply logic and theory rather than follow only what I'm told. I was just wondering about things like course pre-reqs and maybe mistakenly got the impression that the OP was going to be doing deco dives in a few weeks. Also, long before I started diving, I became a huge advocate of the philosophy that any advanced education becomes a lot more meaningful and applicable if it timed appropriately to the level of experience you have. Before that, it is just like drinking from a firehose.

 

[BVickery]

No disagreement whatsoever. I spend a lot of time reading on more advanced scuba topics with my relatively low number of dives simply because I'm a knowledge hound and also like to apply logic and theory rather than follow only what I'm told. I was just wondering about things like course pre-reqs and maybe mistakenly got the impression that the OP was going to be doing deco dives in a few weeks. Also, long before I started diving, I became a huge advocate of the philosophy that any advanced education becomes a lot more meaningful and applicable if it timed appropriately to the level of experience you have. Before that, it is just like drinking from a firehose.

I agree, but sometimes getting time to digest what you read makes it sink in and easier to understand. I'm like that way, the huge thing I hated about all the books I had to read in college was it was so reading so much, so fast, you just became great at BSing stuff. When taking the time to really able to sit down and discent the text in front of me, to get to its meat and potatoes, that's when it really hit me as far as understanding and relating.

 

[tracydr]

At the moment I'm a rec diver who in about 2 weeks is doing a tdi sidemount course then the advanced nitrox. The plan for me is to do the deco course with tdi through the kind guys at dive dive dive (great online shop now - cheap plug). I don't have a lot of buddies who are keen to do the deco tec dives but for my own knowledge and fun I'd like to do it with the aim of one to two good tec deco dives a year the rest being rec dives. Is there any good resources, online courses or websites anyone can recommend to get my head clearly around the theory and guts of the decompression before I undertake the course. I'd love to have a real good hold on it before diving it.

Thoughts or input??

Well, if nothing else, the classes are sure to improve your skills and knowledge.
In addition to the other recommendations, try "the Six Skills".
I've also heard that UTD has some good material. I personally like GUE's Dress For Success and plan to purchase " Beginning with the End in Mind". I've heard this is a very good book.

 

[Panama Jones]

I agree, but sometimes getting time to digest what you read makes it sink in and easier to understand. I'm like that way, the huge thing I hated about all the books I had to read in college was it was so reading so much, so fast, you just became great at BSing stuff. When taking the time to really able to sit down and discent the text in front of me, to get to its meat and potatoes, that's when it really hit me as far as understanding and relating.

Sounds like were on the exact same page. I don't want to hijack but when I go in to do Rescue, I will have read the material, and probably a ton of other material (including asking questions on SB) and will have dove cold, warm, salt, fresh, current, calm etc. I would not feel comfortable (and I'm being honest) calling myself a resuce diver becaue I had 60 quarry or lake dives and took the course The same way I don't think a 24 year old that took his Bachelors and MBA back to back should call themselves management..ha ha, I have one of those.

 

[tracydr]

i was looking for that link but i dont see it on this book...

physical books are a burden for me thats the only reason i haven't gotten this book yet (i even had an e-version of my ow/aow manuals)

I have a hard time reading books on paper, due to needing glasses. My husband takes my books and cuts off the binder with a table saw. He than scans them and makes a PDF file that I store in my IPAD library.

 

[gypsyjim]

From Amazon:

Deco for Divers: Decompression Theory and Physiology

by Mark Powell

(14 customer reviews)
See this book on Amazon.com

[TD="colspan: 2"] Please tell the publisher: I'd like to read this book on Kindle [/TD]

apparently it is not yet available on Kindle

---------- Post added July 11th, 2013 at 09:13 AM ----------

If you click the link Amazon.com sends a note on your interest on to the publisher in an attempt to get them to offer the E version.

i was looking for that link but i dont see it on this book...

physical books are a burden for me thats the only reason i haven't gotten this book yet (i even had an e-version of my ow/aow manuals)

The link is in my post above