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fmw625:
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I have always booked my own dives while cruising. Obviously the biggest concern is timing. I usually give myself a 2hr window in case there is a problem. Another factor would be which port I am in. Flagging down a cab in a hurry is alot easier in Cozumel then it would be in the middle of nowhere in Belize! In some ports, the dive areas are close to the dock, in other ports the dive site is far away. It is safe to dive with private operaters, just have to do a bit of reseach and ask questions.
 
goofystan:
I have been on many cruises and never had a rescheduled departure time so this must be a rare occurance. It is very difficult to get everyone together to leave earlier then stated unless they send people in the streets alerting them to the earlier time. I will always book off the ship as I have done so with other excursions as well. In Cozumel and Belize the independant dive operator's were very flexible they knew what time we were in port and gave us an two hour window to get to their shop. If the ship for some reason cancelled the port of call they also agreed to refund the money that was pre-paid. The operation I used in Cozumel required no pre-payment what so ever. The operation in Belize required payment before the trip. If there was an issue with a refund I am not concerned as my credit card company is very good in disputing charges. The sites we visited were excellent and we were able to pick where to dive unlike the larger operations that are booked on the ship. I would rather give my money to an independant dive operation. Yes, I book cruises to strictly DIVE that is my only purpose of going on a cruise. I have NEVER been disappointed. I guess it depends on how much research one does before booking with a dive operation that is not affiliated with the cruise line. The patrons that went on the dive excursion with the cruise line were back several hours before we were. I spoke with them and they were highly disappointed! they stated that they entered the water three at a time and by the time the last person got into the water it was time to get out. The dive duration was approx.15 Minutes! Not a wise decision! we were under much longer and paid less then half the price as those booked on the cruise. You have to question how safe it is when you have twenty people going into the water at the same time as opposed to six. I would rather dive with six people as opposed to twenty people.

What port were the dives 15 min? I can't believe a tour op in Belize would motor you all the way to Turneffe for a 15 min dive. Also did your operator pick you up in Belize?

Chuck
 
goofystan:
I have been on many cruises and never had a rescheduled departure time so this must be a rare occurance. It is very difficult to get everyone together to leave earlier then stated unless they send people in the streets alerting them to the earlier time. I will always book off the ship as I have done so with other excursions as well. In Cozumel and Belize the independant dive operator's were very flexible they knew what time we were in port and gave us an two hour window to get to their shop. If the ship for some reason cancelled the port of call they also agreed to refund the money that was pre-paid. The operation I used in Cozumel required no pre-payment what so ever. The operation in Belize required payment before the trip. If there was an issue with a refund I am not concerned as my credit card company is very good in disputing charges. The sites we visited were excellent and we were able to pick where to dive unlike the larger operations that are booked on the ship. I would rather give my money to an independant dive operation. Yes, I book cruises to strictly DIVE that is my only purpose of going on a cruise. I have NEVER been disappointed. I guess it depends on how much research one does before booking with a dive operation that is not affiliated with the cruise line. The patrons that went on the dive excursion with the cruise line were back several hours before we were. I spoke with them and they were highly disappointed! they stated that they entered the water three at a time and by the time the last person got into the water it was time to get out. The dive duration was approx.15 Minutes! Not a wise decision! we were under much longer and paid less then half the price as those booked on the cruise. You have to question how safe it is when you have twenty people going into the water at the same time as opposed to six. I would rather dive with six people as opposed to twenty people.

This past trip we spent our time on Cozumel using scubawithalison.com. Normally we left the marina around 8am excpet for special occasions when people booked with Alison from a cruise ship. As a group we didn't mind since it would give a little more time for breakfast or lunch. We did some research to plan for a cruise with diving and when we talked with the larger dive operators they laughed at the thought of waiting for a cruise ship. The manager at Scuba Du said if your ship is late then you lose your dive. So, stay with the smaller independent operators for private booking. They are more flexible and appreciate the business.
 
I want to add a few things I've learned about cruising & diving:

First of all, if you are cruising to DIVE, that's definately doable and can be a great time. You will be motivated enough to figure out a way to keep a good attitude about all the gear everywhere, and schlepping your gear back and forth to dive ops, and you won't mind because you're ultimately going to get in some great diving. If you're diving some, because you're there to CRUISE, that's also going to work fine. You might want to use a bit more rental gear to cut down on the stateroom mess, since diving's not the primary focus, but that's personal preference. We haven't paid the extra $$ for a balcony, yet, but I'm sure it would be great. We've just been too cheap to do that, would rather have the $$ and just work a bit harder to stay sane in the stateroom.

To me, cruising is the "sampler platter" of vacations, whether diving or not. Our first tropical vacation was a cruise, we loved it, especially because we got to have fun while someone else was taking us to a place we'd never seen but always wanted to, basically hassle-free travel. We got to snorkel in our first blue water (Roatan) ever, and fell in love with the whole experience. Then, you get back on the ship and have more fun while someone else has the hassle of taking you to another exotic location that you've always wanted to try. We've been able to experience places that we probably would never fly-in without trying them out first during a cruise ship stop. For example, I had always thought I wanted to fly to Jamaica, but after visiting there on a one-day stop- I'm glad that I've been there, but I now would not spend fly-in $$ on a trip there. We found that we would much rather be in Cozumel than Cancun, which, prior to cruising, I thought it would be the other way around.

In other words, for us, cruising introduced us to a whole lot of options, and we've been able to make more informed choices for our personnal preferences in regard to fly-in vacations. For a lot of people, scheduling dive ops in an new/unknown location can be a bit intimidating. But once you have visited that port, even for just one day on a cruise ship, you have learned a lot about how to get around, what the taxi/crowd situation is like, etc. It makes it much easier to have the confidence to do your "own thing" on subsequent trips. For that very reason, we try to book our own dives in a location that we've visited before, and use the ship excursion's op in new ports.

We HAVE learned that we personally prefer fly-ins for dive-purpose trips, but we will certainly cruise if the right opportunity presents. We did a diving cruise this year with our LDS, and while hectic at times, the commadarie and fellowship we all enjoyed made the extra effort worth it. Plus, the after parties rocked. ;o)

Foo
 
My wife and I did the Galveston/Progresso/Coz/Belize Carnival trip in Nov. We almost booked our Belize diving over the net before we left but decided to do the ship's excursion since we had never been to Belize. For Coz we were just meeting a DM friend of ours at Carlos & Charlies at 10 a.m. on Wed. and were going to play it by ear. The second evening we were told that a passenger had a medical emergency and we would have to turn toward Corpus Cristi so the USCG could fly out a chopper to get the guy. It took so long to get this accomplished that we were a day late. So we got to Coz on Thur. and lost Belize altogether (went across the channel from Coz to Calica for our 3rd port of call which really sucked). Bottom line was a whole suitcase of dive gear never got unpacked and we were really glad we hadn't prepaid our Belize diving.
Felt bad for the guy who was hurting until we found out he had prostate surgery the week before he got on the ship. Screwed up 2500 people's vacation and almost died because of an extreme lack of judgement.
 

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