Creation vs. Evolution

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Science should be about understanding the world in which we live.

The world in which we live has been shown to be much different and stranger than what it would appear to be on the surface.

Those who truly want to explore and understand shouldn't constrain themselves to only considering matter and energy, time and force. The nature of existence is much stranger than that!
 
Rick Murchison:
Heh, heh... I hear ye loud & clear, Pug :)
Rick

So now there were TWO old bulls and a young bull walking through the pasture one day.......:D
 
Hank49:
So now there were TWO old bulls and a young bull walking through the pasture one day.......:D

I didn't get your joke the first time I read it, and I don't get it now. Must be 'cuz I'm the young bull. When does one become the old bull? 30? 40? 60?
 
Thall,

I don't understand why it would make anybody's blood boil.

When you are blessed with the intellect you three have, you have a responsibilty more than most not to be demeaning. :)

This thread might be the only education I get this week...
 
catherine96821:
Thall,

I don't understand why it would make anybody's blood boil.

When you are blessed with the intellect you three have, you have a responsibilty more than most not to be demeaning. :)

This thread might be the only education I get this week...

Catherine: I doubt you will get much "education". The computer dweeb types will continue in their "I'm smarter than you" fashion. Patient Uncle Pug will continue to be patient. etc. Better off having a nice dive in calm seas.
 
mdb:
Catherine: I doubt you will get much "education". The computer dweeb types will continue in their "I'm smarter than you" fashion. Patient Uncle Pug will continue to be patient. etc. Better off having a nice dive in calm seas.

It has nothing to do with "I'm smarter than you" and I'm sorry if you have gotten that impression. It has to do with being educated on the topics we are arguing about. Lamont and Thas are *far* more educated about these topics than I ever will be, but I know enough to spot BS when I see it. There is a lot of BS in this thread.
 
Soggy:
I didn't get your joke the first time I read it, and I don't get it now. Must be 'cuz I'm the young bull. When does one become the old bull? 30? 40? 60?

That's a good question Soggy. I would guess the number isn't that important but maybe one is an "old bull" when one can recognize a "young bull"? Don't worry, anyway, all the best old bulls were young once too. Including the two old wisened ones (not me, I'm not THAT old yet:D ) that seem to want to take you "for a walk in the pasture". Enjoy.....
 
Uncle Pug:
Those who truly want to explore and understand shouldn't constrain themselves to only considering matter and energy, time and force. The nature of existence is much stranger than that!


and conveniently malleable ... without needing to prove it, you can claim anything you want ...

you say those who "truly want to explore and understand"

i say that is smug and condensending, as if the only way to "explore and understand" is to have your spiritual beliefs

alright, let me be smug back:

there is no argument you can make to me regarding God that can not be reduced to wishful thinking and the inability to see reality for what it is

but i don't believe that. i do believe that God plays an important part in people's lives, who are not smug and don't feel they know the mind of God, and who are humble enough to admit they could learn a thing or two even from the heathen

blessed are the meek...
 
Soggy:
There is a lot of BS in this thread.
Ahhhh.... yesss... yes, Grasshopper, but which, and, who decides? Allow me to elucidate, if only a little.
Once upon a time, I took a little graduate economics. The professor was demonstrating some principle using differential math to prove a point - all very impressive, fancy and compelling.
But what about *real* economics in the real world?
In the fall of 1985 the chairman of the Fed mentioned that he wouldn't mind seeing the dollar lose a little of its value on world currency markets. The very next day the dollar lost 20% against the mark; within three months it was half the price it had been the day the remark was made.
A PhD in economics doesn't guarantee wealth, and the extrapolation of the best in economic theory is often way off the mark in the real world. And without the historical record, it is as off looking at the past as it is looking to the future. Yet economic experts cling to their mathematical models as tenaciously as a barnacle to a piling.
But, but... there are just too many unknowns, too many factors, too many uncertainties, they say, and the theories are sound...
I find it fascinating that the same folks who cannot forecast the weather or the economic conditions half a year hence with any accuracy (are those not subject to scientific exploration and explanation?) are so certain of the accuracy of their conjectures drawn from current available observations and mathematical extrapolations on the nature of things 20 billion years ago. "20 billion years ago" - even that is subject to where you measure it, where you stand in the cosmos, and what you measure it against... "relative to what?"
On a galactic scale, what Rick and Soggy do is of infinite insignificance. Isn't it grand that even in our infinitesimally small corner of the universe there is vast wonder for us to explore and to contemplate. The assumption that we know a lot about anything pales before reality.
"For now we see through a glass darkly, but then, face to face."
Rick :)
 
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