Creation vs. Evolution

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Soggy:
The existence of aliens would be a big bummer for fundamentalist christians....


If evolution is true as so many claim, would'nt the aliens look like us? Do the rules of evolution get suspended when you exit our solar system? Is chemistry the same in another galaxy as it is here? Are the laws of physics thrown out on another planet as well?

interesting..
 
sandjeep:
No, not at all. I can't send anyone to Hell. Ones actions or lack of determines the outcome. God judges by his standards not ours.


how bad is your club, when the promise of eternal bliss isn't good enough, but find the need to add everlasting torture to convert or keep followers?
 
sandjeep:
If evolution is true as so many claim, would'nt the aliens look like us? Do the rules of evolution get suspended when you exit our solar system? Is chemistry the same in another galaxy as it is here? Are the laws of physics thrown out on another planet as well?

interesting..


actually, no

the main complaint about sci fi shows is the fact that all the "alien races" look like us. if there is one thing evolution has shown us, is that if and when ET life is found, it will not look like us.
 
sandjeep:
If evolution is true as so many claim, would'nt the aliens look like us? Do the rules of evolution get suspended when you exit our solar system? Is chemistry the same in another galaxy as it is here? Are the laws of physics thrown out on another planet as well?

interesting..
They might....and they might not. Presumably they would have evolved to best suit their own environment. Who is to say that that environment is exactly like ours? Life can exist in many varying places even just on Earth. Evolution isn't about a fixed plan - it's about constant best choices with a fair amount of chance thrown in as well. No-one dictates exactly which genes their children get.... (well not yet anyway....)
 
sandjeep:
If evolution is true as so many claim, would'nt the aliens look like us? Do the rules of evolution get suspended when you exit our solar system? Is chemistry the same in another galaxy as it is here? Are the laws of physics thrown out on another planet as well?

interesting..
What are the chances of aliens looking like us?:confused: The alien conditions and circumstances in their alien environments would very likely result in evolution taking a different course than it did on Earth. Look at penguins. In Antarctica, they're big and fat so they can survive the harsh cold. Galapagos penguins don't have to put up with those conditions, though, and so are smaller (therefore more surface area in proportion to volume) and don't have so much insulation. Plus, a whale lives in the ocean, so it has become better adapted to that kind of environment than to land. Notice that whales don't look like deer, who live on land.
It is extremely unclear to me why you would expect alien organisms to evolve the same way as us if you believed evolution was true.
 
It is extremely unclear to me why you would expect alien organisms to evolve the same way as us if you believed evolution was true.

Hmm, something I read once, but can't quite remember. Something to do with gravity, O2, being warm blooded.

I assume we're still talking about intelligent life and not animals? I will leave this for now.
 
sandjeep:
I assume we're still talking about intelligent life and not animals? I will leave this for now.
You don't need hands, legs or a neck like a human to be intelligent. Look at cetaceans. Dunno about O2 or being warm blooded though.
 
sandjeep:
Hmm, something I read once, but can't quite remember. Something to do with gravity, O2, being warm blooded.

I assume we're still talking about intelligent life and not animals? I will leave this for now.

a) We are animals. Plain and simple.

b) There are plenty of options out there for life to exist. We live in a gravity based gaseous environment. Fish (you remember fish, we look at them while we're diving) live in a liquid environment where gravity is much less of an issue.

There are no rules that say intelligent life (and by intelligent I assume you mean a species that has the capacity to want to communicate with us as a species) has to be terrestrial, or that it needs gravity, or even that being carbon-based and living to metabolize oxygen are prerequisites. There are anarobic bacteria on this planet and plants metabolize CO2. Just because this is the environment WE evolved in doesn't mean that to establish an evolutionary chain the conditions have to be the same or even similar.

Rachel
 
MikeFerrara:
It works for me. First off, I don't think that we would have a sun and atmosphere with clouds to make those cool sunsets without a God. We sure wouldn't be standing there looking at it. The fact that we can stand there looking at it and think it's gorgeous really drives the point home. The fact that some one who has seen as many as I have can still see new ones that top all the others drives the point right through me.

Yup. Semiotics. I can read what you wrote and the syntax makes sense, but I don't understand at all what you're talking about.

The more I learned about how symmetry principles give rise to conservation laws and such, the more I came to the conclusion that it couldn't be done any other way...
 
So is MikeFerrara saying that God created happiness?
 
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