Info Clampdown on UW Cameras

[tursiops]

most of the reefs are worldwide are probably going to be dead and gone within the next 20 years anyways

Why do you say this? What are you quoting?

 

[TostitoBandito]

I was being a bit hyperbolic, fair enough.

Anyways, off topic. Don't touch the coral. We can all agree on that.

 

[rmorgan]

Why do you say this? What are you quoting?

Anecdotally, the Jardines de la Reina off of Cuba beached terribly between when we booked a trip in May 2023 until we dove in January 2024. We dove Cape Kri in October 2024, and it was fabulous; by January 2025, it was stark white. Bonaire, well . . . tragic. So, optimism is challenging.

A new International Coral Reef Initiative (ICRI) report, published this past Wednesday, reports:

From 1 January 2023 to 30 March 2025, bleaching-level heat stress impacted 84% of the world’s reefs, with 82 countries, territories and economies suffering damage. During the first global coral bleaching event in 1998, 21% of reefs experienced bleaching-level heat stress, rising to 37% in the second event in 2010 and 68% during the third event (2014-2017)1. Scientists called the fourth global coral bleaching event “unprecedented” as early as May 2024, and a widely-used bleaching prediction platform had to add three new levels (Levels 3-5) to their Bleaching Alert Scale to indicate the heightened risk of mass coral mortality. The previous highest level, Level 2, indicates risk of mortality to heat sensitive corals; Level 5 indicates the risk of over 80% of all corals on a reef dying due to prolonged bleaching.​

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A West Papua thermal stress map from 2024, linked, is bleak. Global temperatures will almost certainly continue to rise, and the straight-line connection to bleaching cannot be gainsaid. What percentage, where, and in what year, nobody knows, of course--but it seems clearthat the reefs of a few decades--and often, a few months--past, are in desperate shape.

 

[tursiops]

Anecdotally, the Jardines de la Reina off of Cuba beached terribly between when we booked a trip in May 2023 until we dove in January 2024. We dove Cape Kri in October 2024, and it was fabulous; by January 2025, it was stark white. Bonaire, well . . . tragic. So, optimism is challenging.

A new International Coral Reef Initiative (ICRI) report, published this past Wednesday, reports:

From 1 January 2023 to 30 March 2025, bleaching-level heat stress impacted 84% of the world’s reefs, with 82 countries, territories and economies suffering damage. During the first global coral bleaching event in 1998, 21% of reefs experienced bleaching-level heat stress, rising to 37% in the second event in 2010 and 68% during the third event (2014-2017)1. Scientists called the fourth global coral bleaching event “unprecedented” as early as May 2024, and a widely-used bleaching prediction platform had to add three new levels (Levels 3-5) to their Bleaching Alert Scale to indicate the heightened risk of mass coral mortality. The previous highest level, Level 2, indicates risk of mortality to heat sensitive corals; Level 5 indicates the risk of over 80% of all corals on a reef dying due to prolonged bleaching.​

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A West Papua thermal stress map from 2024, linked, is bleak. Global temperatures will almost certainly continue to rise, and the straight-line connection to bleaching cannot be gainsaid. What percentage, where, and in what year, nobody knows, of course--but it seems clearthat the reefs of a few decades--and often, a few months--past, are in desperate shape.

I do not disagree; reefs are endangered, with global warming, pollution, and ocean acidity being the main culprits. I do object to hyperbole, such as saying "most of the reefs are worldwide are probably going to be dead and gone within the next 20 years"

 

[Nemrod]

There have been five major extinctions, we are in the Holocene extinction event now. It really, began before man knew how to do much of anything other than gnaw on bones and make fires. Life finds a way though it is not pretty. Especially if you are on the extinction list.

Cameras are not the problem though I know who they are getting at with this edict and am going to avoid being political or non PC.

 

[tursiops]

I know who they are getting at with this edict and am going to avoid being political or non PC.

LOL. "I know something you don't know and I'm not going to tell you. Nyah nyah nyah."
I think the last time I heard that was third grade.
Best strategy is to just not say anything.

 

[Nemrod]

LOL. "I know something you don't know and I'm not going to tell you. Nyah nyah nyah."
I think the last time I heard that was third grade.
Best strategy is to just not say anything.

You know the same things I know, it is just not worth a discussion. I apologize for being snarky. I was running a 101 degree fever, must have picked up some croop somewhere in Florida or along the way. That is my excuse, I am sorry.

 

[Wobbegong_th]

Yeah I'm fine with this. Not sure what constitutes a "deep" dive, but I'm guessing deeper than around 20m/66f since I think that's around where certain certification agencies technically want you to have AOW (as silly as that seems).

The word "Deep" was actually something 'twisted in translation'.
I'm a Thai. The way Thai legislation wrote about diving refer "SCUBA" diving with the word that literally would mean 'Deep Dive'. (In other word, Diving with any equipment assisting in breathing)
Thai word for 'Snorkling' would literally translated as 'diving'.
Those are due to the traditional meaning of the Thai word for Diving which originated before SCUBA was invented.

However, Thai word for "Free Diving" would literally translated as "Free Diving"...