chest pain and hard to breathe, I need some help here

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Retnav, I got to work yesterday and found a thank-you note pinned to the break room wall. The gist of the note was that a woman was writing to thank us for saving her husband's life. He'd been having chest pain problems, and his doctors were convinced it was esophagitis and refused to order a cardiac workup. He came into our ER with an acute MI; we cared for him appropriately and he did well, but it could have been avoided. I immediately thought of you.
 
I have an appointment with the heart guy on the 9th. I assume they are going to do the cath then. I will keep you posted!
 
Could the 10 mg of Lipitor be contributing in any way? The reason I'm asking is because in September my doc took me off of Crestor because of leg cramps and the fact that I was pissing like a race horse every few hours. And put me on Lipitor. Then I started having problems. I haven't taken the Lipitor since October after my chest problems. I have been feeling better and felt like its getting better everyday. I started taking the Lipitor again 7-8 days ago and in the last day or so I have started feeling bad again then today I got the shortness of breath chest pains and pain in my arms again. The only thing I have done different is started taking the Lipitor again. Could the Lipitor be contributing? It sure seems like it to me!
 
I don't think so. I looked Lipitor up in ePocrates just to double-check. It has some potentially serious side effects but none of them match your symptoms. I would definitely mention your suspicions to the physician who prescribed the medication, though. Lynne, any ideas?
 
Tend to agree with The Duke that it's unlikely. But, I must admit the time parameters do appear suggestive and it's certainly not an impossibility.

Scroll about halfway down the "Rare side effects of Lipitor Oral"--"Trouble Breathing; Chest Pain" --> Common and Rare Side Effects for Lipitor Oral

Regards,

DocVikingo
 
Interesting. No mention of chest pain or dyspnea on the prescription insert either... maybe you'd see it in conjunction with rhabdomyolysis and renal failure but retnav isn't typing from an ICU bed (I hope!!!)

Goes to show you the variety of information that's out there.
 
IIRC, Lipitor(tm) can moderately elevate digoxin concentration which could alter rhythms. I don't recall this effect mentioned with other statins. Although digoxin itself doesn't appear to be a player here, there are digoxin-like factors which can come from dietary sources; certain herbal teas, if IIRC. But I don't know if the interaction applies to these. In any case, I agree the observation with Lipitor is noteworthy.

The symptoms with Crestor(tm) seem to be consistent with known skeletal muscle side-effects.
 
I tend to disagree regarding lipitor, statins have potential myopathic side effects with striated muscle
One thing that many people don't consider, the diaphragm is skeletal muscle, statin myopathy effecting the diaphragm can cause many of your issues.


Another thing that is often forgotten, while statin myopathy is most commonly described in the literature as effecting skeletal muscle, Myocardiocytes(heart muscle) are also striated muscle. It's not impossible that the lipitor is causing or at least potentially playing a roll in the issue.


The "I think you popped some blood vessels in your lungs/chest and thats why it hurts" diagnosis, is quite frankly, bull****. IMO


a negative Chest CT wo/w contrast rapidly rules that out, rapidly rules out aortic aneurysm, rules out PTE, rules out any MSK related issues as well(save some soft tissue injuries that are highly unlikely to fit both your initial presentation and continued issues).

Printzmetals, while yes it is on the differential, given the history it does not fit very well unless he was doing a line of cocaine before each incident(stimulant induced printz). Printzmetals rarely occurs with exertion and the prototypical presentation is someone that has angina at rest and is not incited by exertion. To make the diagnosis you either need an ekg(not super sensitive but less invasive) on while symptomatic that shows the characteristic changes of ischemic myocardium or ct angio(considered the gold standard) while you are symptomatic(anyone that says otherwise is uninformed or giving you the run around). Printzmetals often does not have any elevated cardiac enzymes after an episode and the absence of which does not effect the probability of printzmetals.

Another potential but far fetched differential is a pheo. the test for that is fairly simple. they just measure urinary metanephrines/vma etc after a recent attack.
Pheo is a neuroendocrine tumor that can episodically release epi/norepi into your blood stream and cause a rapid increase in heart rate and myocardial oxygen demand, cardiac ischemia can cause the pain running down both arms. The vast majority of Pheo's are located in teh adrenal glands on top of your kidneys and are a very easy surgical removal. the caveat to this one is, the pheo does not have to be large enough to be visible on CT in order to be symptomatic. The second most common place for one is the organ of zuckercandle just inferior to the aortic bifurcation.

And do not take this the wrong way, but generalized anxiety disorder is a potential as well with what info I've been given so far. These could very possibly be panic attacks you are having as well.


Hopefully this is helpful and your physicians are able to figure out whats ailing you, medicine is a collaborative sport.



*This is not intended to replace any information given to you by an MD that has had the opportunity to physically exam you and take a history. The above is provided purely on an educational intention.*
 
The heart doc ordered the cath. I am set for Wednesday 15 Dec @0700. He said he did not like the pictures of my heart that the VA took. He said the lower part of my heart had shadows because of my stomach. He also said that he was treating me for a heart issue until it is completely ruled out. He also said he does not believe it has anything to do with my stomach or esphoagus. He said I am to start taking the Lipitor again. He said I may have blockage that requires a stent. Wednesday I should know. If I require a stent he said they would put it in while I am on the table. If I require a stent how is that going to effect my diving? I don't really believe its a panic attack because it happens if I start washing my Harley or my truck and or I exert myself very much. My EKG on the 9th of December was normal. But the doc still ordered the hearth cath.
 
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The VA did take 4 sets of pictures of my heart with the dye. They said my stomach kept getting in the way. After the first set they had me eat crackers and drink some gingerale. Then I had to walk up and down the hallway for 15 - 30 minutes and they took pictures again. After the stress test the same exact thing happened so they took 2 sets after the stress test. I only got to complete level 2 on the stress test and they made me stop because they said my heart was not speeding up like they wanted. Then they put the IV in me and pumped some sort of medicine in me. I thought I was having a heart attack for the 4 minutes but after they stopped giving it to me a minute later I felt fine. Thats when they took the additional 2 sets of heart pictures.
 

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