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k ellis, I like your post. For one thing you point out that you could snorkel before you could swim. This points out the difference between using fins or not. It is odd that you snorkelled first--perhaps in very shallow water? Next you say that for diving you learned to swim, making my point that it is puzzling why anyone who couldn't swim would consider diving. Third you say basically that folks who need work to get to a standard should be cut some slack and given the help and time to do so. How is your DM class coming?