Question Certification cards!

[Miyaru]

I just show my Everything card. Works every time.

 

[GreggS]

The only cert card I carry with me is my nitrox and EFR. I've never been asked to produce either but whatever.

If you ever come down to Wilmington to dive like you and I have discussed before, you need to bring your cert card and nitrox card if you dive enriched gas. They'll hold both on the boat until it gets back to the dock.

 

[MM90KeysDiver]

eCards are fine for my preferences, but some dive ops here in the states require that they hold each divers card during the dive charter. In that case, of course, the physical card is a lot more practical.

What a dumb policy. If I drown, do they plan on holding the physical card as some "get out of jail" card to wave around? They can look at an electronic cert card, write down a number on their form, or verify with the agencies on their computer. If that ain't good enough, then I suppose my electronic money isn't either.

 

[Wibble]

e-cards are a royal PITA.

Which damn agency was it that I need for this circumstance? PADI, TDI, SDI, IANTD, DAN...

A card's a card. A dive shop/wotever can photograph it and check the validity from that agency. I can pick out the ones I need and put them in my wallet.

The utter BS from these companies "plastic in the water"... Would a kick up the jacksie help to explain?

Most of it's about selling their stupid, pathetic, useless tracking (cr)apps as built by marketing chimps.


Best to last...

DAN - ARE YOU COMPLETELY OFF YOUR HEADS? I need the card to prove I have insurance; I need the card in case of emergency. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PRINT & LAMINATE A CARD FROM YOU COMPLETE MUPPETS NOR DO I WANT TO USE DYNOTAPE ON AN OLD CARD WITH THE NEW POLICY NUMBER AND EXPIRY DATE -- that looks so professional. You utter utter utter imbeciles.

This pisses me off so much I'm probably going to use someone else when I renew later this season.


3..2..1.. I'm going for a cup of tea to help me calm down.


Edit: have been told that DAN US is not like their stupid European office; DAN US still issue plastic cards. Poxy accountants... know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

 

[GreggS]

What a dumb policy. If I drown, do they plan on holding the physical card as some "get out of jail" card to wave around? They can look at an electronic cert card, write down a number on their form, or verify with the agencies on their computer. If that ain't good enough, then I suppose my electronic money isn't either.

I have no idea why the policy, but one dive op I've dived with holds them on the boat and another one holds them in the dive shop. They're the only two I can remember that do that.

And I agree. Sounds like a useless practice but I'm sure they've have had an experience in the past to implement this policy. I'll have to ask the next time I dive with either one of them as to why they require this.

 

[BoundForElsewhere]

Can't any dive shop look up your certifications on line? What's the use of cards, anyways?

 

[Wibble]

What a dumb policy. If I drown, do they plan on holding the physical card as some "get out of jail" card to wave around? They can look at an electronic cert card, write down a number on their form, or verify with the agencies on their computer. If that ain't good enough, then I suppose my electronic money isn't either.

Disagree with that. It's more work for them.

When I've dived in places that need the two cards: certification and insurance, they take them from you at registration, put them and your other fellow diver's cards in a box and that goes with the skipper on the boat for the dive police to check (welcome to Spain)

How's that going to work with E-cards without printing bits of paper for the fuzz?

 

[Wibble]

Can't any dive shop look up your certifications on line? What's the use of cards, anyways?

Which agency are you talking about? You've a choice of dozens.

What about defunct cards that are just as valid -- those old YMCA ones?

Or is it just one big dive agency that counts?

 

[Wibble]

I just show my Everything card. Works every time.

What's an "Everything card"?

Is that like Dr Who's psychic paper?


(Edit: do you get Dr Who in the US and other parts of the world? It's a BBC sci-fi series which has been going since the 1960s.)

 

[GameChanger]

I cannot remember the last time I was asked to produce any card, except my CREDIT CARD...