Can you be DIR if you are not GUE-trained?

Can you dive DIR if you have never taken a class from GUE?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 63.5%
  • No

    Votes: 19 36.5%

  • Total voters
    52

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That direction (DIR/F going to Cert) is one we addressed this weekend in our recent DIR/F, albeit not at length

Its an interesting area of thought, and I wonder how much its going to change the current DIR/F classes. Having not seen the curriculum for the Cert course, what follows are simply the thoughts off the top of my dome and are not based on any knowledge or inside scoop from the recent class.

* What is the intent of making this a Cert course? If the intent is to use DIR/F as a stepping stone for the other GUE classes and training (read: filtering process) then a lot has to change from its current format.

* It will become significantly more expensive. The class materials will need to surely be upgraded.

* The student will need to leave the course with the ability to actually execute the skills. Speaking strictly for myself, I came out of DIR/F knowing the skills. Consistent execution will take a while... maybe a long while. With a Cert course, you either do (execute) or you don't (Pass).

* That being said, the course will need to be longer in duration. We're not talking a 2 day over the weekend affair. You can't walk in with your AOW game and leave with DIR/F game in two days, a few lectures, some land drills and a couple of dives. No way.

* There will likey need to be some sort of OW prerequisite to the DIR/F Cert. Unless DIR/F is intended to be GUE's OW class...in that case it will be a comple restructure and not simply turning DIR/F into a cert class.

* I think GUE will be losing a valuable resource if they eliminate the current weekend format and replace it with the Cert format alone. The current format is, for the most part, affordable, somewhat gear-flexible, and provides an excellent window into the GUE way of thinking.

If their intention is to impart a filtering process, then by all means they'll kill the current DIR/F format and go Cert alone. Which means 90% or more of the students that roll in will not roll on. A class structure like that won't be around for long. I know I would have failed, for sure. I think many of us who went through the current DIR/F feel the same way.

I for one would like to review the Cert class format, materials, mission statement and curriculum. I'd probably consider taking it after 've had a few months to work on the stuff I've already been shown.

Ken


PS: I've posted my thoughts on the class I took in another room. and thrown up a few posts since then, too. And as a newly minted DIR/F guy, most of this is un-broken ground for me. I acknowledge I am so new I'm still wet and crying. I've received some PM's.... so here it is: if I'm coming off as Johnny DIR because of one class, someone put a slug into me. You should all know me well enough by now to know I'm more firmly grounded that that... I try to check myself. If you think I'm drifting, just relax, and re-read the post.

k
 
JeffG once bubbled...
But why?.....Why do people feel the need to be 100% DIR so that they can call themselves DIR.

That was my _exact_ point in the thread... if I can only find it.
 
Uncle Pug once bubbled...
Oh who cares...
... just dive rite!

The best post yet (and yes, I really do mean its the best post yet)
 
My guess is that nobody really cares it's just something to talk about mostly.
 
lies in having divers acknowledge that their skills, equipment configs, and attitudes can be improved. To attain the elusive 100% DIR seal of approval isn't all that important to me.

I never describe myself as DIR...at best I'm MDIR or PDIR (depending on if I'm mostly or partly doing it right).

Getting acquainted with Hogarthian rigs and DIR has helped me to be a better diver. It's opened up some new interests in diving, provided an excuse to buy some new toys, and even given me the opportunity to make a few new friends.

What's not to like?
 
Aquabella once bubbled...


Sadly though...this is me now! What the heck did you guys do! Which way t' go...which way t' go...

Most any **informed** choice you make will work. The purpose of a hobby is to have fun and learn something in the process. You cannot have fun (dive) and learn (more dive) if you do nothing but try to make equipment choices.

I am equiping a new female diver right now. She has given me her budget (alot) and I buy her equipment. I don't waste her money on junk and she doesn't have to relearn everything I already have (or not as the case may be:) )

MD
 
Hey, thanks for the reply MD...here I was thinking no cared about the confused newbie...

Informed is what I want to be...there are just so many differing opinions on this board! I had never heard of GUE until I came across this place. Funny enough though...I go down to my LDS last week and I notice for the first time that they all dive BP/wing! I have to say, I find the whole DIR thing interesting.
I guess I should check out this manual?
 
Aquabella once bubbled...
Hey, thanks for the reply MD...here I was thinking no cared about the confused newbie...

Informed is what I want to be...there are just so many differing opinions on this board! I had never heard of GUE until I came across this place. Funny enough though...I go down to my LDS last week and I notice for the first time that they all dive BP/wing! I have to say, I find the whole DIR thing interesting.
I guess I should check out this manual?

the only difference between a confused newbie and confused veteran is age :(

There are also differing opinions in anything, we're just more vocal than most. Bottom line is don't let it run your life, or your diving for that matter. Nobody here (well, other than Pug anyway) was born a knowledgable diver. Its just something that takes time, some effort, and, sometimes, luck. Like you finding Scubaboard.

Making a "less than optimal" choice will not kill you, as my used equipment corner will attest.

MD
 
GUE is an agency. DIR is a diving style/approach/philosophy. In the end, we're all divers, some better than others.

Now, what I wonder: If being DIR was just a matter of being certified by GUE, why wouldn't GUE be named DIR?
 

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