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Hello All:

Here's my question. Im unsure if I can scuba...but id love to

I had tubes in my ears as a child and a couple of operations which ultimately led to subsequent infections and finally a perforated eardrum on one side and maybe another on the other.
So basically if i go under the water more than about 3 feet my ears clog with water..

My thoughts were ..can i Scuba with earplugs? Or possibly a wetsuit headpiece? But I dont know the effects of pressure etc?

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

AdamK@Drte.com
 
I think this question belongs in the Diving Medicine forum so I'm moving it there. You'll get better qualified answers there.

WW
 
Dear Adamk119

First I would like to say hope u will get well soon..
Listen dear in any organization if u want to take a course with then what ever was the course u have to sign a medical statement ,
In this message u have an example of one so u can have an Idea about , if u answered yes to one of these u should go to the doctor and let him check u and bring back with u a paper that u r able to dive ….
So anyway u have to see a doctor to make sure that if u did a course u wont be hurt more or u wont have any problems


MEDICAL HISTORY
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_____ Could you be pregnant or are you attempting to become pregnant?
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• have a high cholesterol level
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_____ History of diving accidents or decompression sickness?
_____ History of recurrent back problems?
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_____ History of any heart disease?
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_____ History of ear or sinus surgery?
_____ History of ear disease, hearing loss or problems with balance?
_____ History of problems equalizing (popping) ears with airplane or mountain travel?
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Adamk119'

Nooooo...Don't dive! Never dive with ear plugs...unless you want to see how it feels when the two plugs meet in the middle of your brain!

All kidding aside, diving with ear plugs will lead to severe mechanical/barotrauma. They can be forced into the ear canal...and beyond. Besides bringing tears to your eyes cause this is gonna hurt, you can injure the tympanic membrane, the chorda timpani and structures within the middle ear.

You indicate a past medical history of eardrum perforation and as I read it, you still experience clogged ears when you submerge. If there is still some sort of perforation or ear infection, you can't dive.

You might want to have an ENT doctor check you out to see if your condition can be treated. If not, don't dive.

But, hey! What do I know...I'm just the toothdoc and only get to look at the ears from the inside out! :)


Be careful and hopes for a good ear exam.

Larry Stein
 
Wowow I just wanted to tell u about this mask but I was trying to think of a way to explain it to u , anyway I saw this mask ones and I looked all over the country for it and I could not fined any anyway in my country …..but sorry I cant tell u anything about it if it should be good or not cos your situation is not like any other situations anyway please just go see a professional doctor and let him help u with this thing u have ..take care
 
There are ear plugs designed to very greatly reduce the entry of water into the external auditory canal while still allowing for efficient equalization, such as these---> http://www.proplugs.com

Becase they do not always keep the ear completely dry, given a still open perforation of the eardrum it probably is prudent to hold off on diving, but for reasons of infection, not to keep them out of the middle of the brain.

I agree that a proper ENT exam and medical clearance to dive is a wise course of action.

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual, and should not be construed as such.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
Yes, the manufacturer, who has long visited this & other scuba boards from time to time, provided me a pair to test. I have lent them to others to try as well.

The are costly, and definitely a take a bit of getting used to, but properly used are effective in greatly reducing water flow into the outer ear.

However, as with the above Doc's Proplugs, they do not always keep the ear completely dry. As such, if an open perforation of the eardrum exists it is prudent to hold off on diving until receiving medical clearance to return.

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual, and should not be construed as such.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
If it makes you feel any better i also had many ear infections as a kid that lead to getting tubes in my ears.I dont use any special mask or any type of ear plugs that are mentioned here.I am lucky enough to be able to equalize ok.Sometimes it takes me a while to get down due to equalizing problems.Sometimes i get down with no problems.But as you can see you have many options such as the proear mask and proplugs along with some great advice from the doctors on the board.But like they said get checked out by a doctor and see where you stand.
 
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