Calgarian suing diver training organization

[DandyDon]

I'm going to take us out into a weird utopian bizarro world, but most places you can get nitrox also supply a O2 analyser so those without one can analyse their own tanks. Divers that are properly trained have come to expect this as the norm. It would not take much to have a shop CO analyser that all divers could use to analyse every tank, provided they were properly trained to use the analyser. Divers that are independent or do not trust how well the shop gear is maintained would still be able to purchase their own, just as they do with O2 analysers. Ken, I would even support our local dive community chipping in to offset the costs to the shops, perhaps this is a discussion that would be worth having.

Yep, the shops should furnish the CO testers. Costs a little more than an O2 analyzer - yes, and more to maintain, but even if the shop only filled 100 tanks a month, and their wholesale cost was $300, their first year cost would be 25c/tank. I think for most Ops it'd be only a few pennies a tank.

 

[underH2Oman]

Yep, the shops should furnish the CO testers. Costs a little more than an O2 analyzer - yes, and more to maintain, but even if the shop only filled 100 tanks a month, and their wholesale cost was $300, their first year cost would be 25c/tank. I think for most Ops it'd be only a few pennies a tank.

Here in Ontario, Canada there are CO detectors on most store fill systems ( I can not confirm all). Most installed monitors are sampling from all the gas passing through he fill panel. They cost a little more about $800.00 but eliminate the need to check individual cylinders as they would alarm if there was CO detected. (no fill can get missed)

 

[Doppler]

Here in Ontario, Canada there are CO detectors on most store fill systems ( I can not confirm all). Most installed monitors are sampling from all the gas passing through he fill panel. They cost a little more about $800.00 but eliminate the need to check individual cylinders as they would alarm if there was CO detected. (no fill can get missed)

Dean: I'm told that several of the major compressor companies out of the EU have sensor systems built-in too. Only know the default setting on one brand (IDE) but it's guaranteed... I believe most are... have to be.

 

[DandyDon]

Here in Ontario, Canada there are CO detectors on most store fill systems ( I can not confirm all). Most installed monitors are sampling from all the gas passing through he fill panel. They cost a little more about $800.00 but eliminate the need to check individual cylinders as they would alarm if there was CO detected. (no fill can get missed)

Yep, and all compressors should have them. However, I have found tainted tanks from such. I test all of my tanks.

 

[t4e]

if i understand what the husband is saying ...that a diver with 200 divers DOES NOT KNOW about co hits ? yeah right and has not seen or heard of co detectors during their dive career ? yeah right ... just another person trying to lay blame ........is this going to be like sue happy USA here in canada now ??????

i sure hope not, but i'm having doubts

i find it amazing that people are allowed to sue someone else for their own ignorance, very sad state of affairs!
and why only PADI and not the instructor too?

 

[DandyDon]

i sure hope not, but i'm having doubts

i find it amazing that people are allowed to sue someone else for their own ignorance, very sad state of affairs!
and why only PADI and not the instructor too?

Ignorance? Padi is the training agency, yes? How about reading the linked story...?

And this one linked on that page: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ho-died-while-diving-also-felt-sick-1.1162791

 

[Dr. Lecter]

if i understand what the husband is saying ...that a diver with 200 divers DOES NOT KNOW about co hits ? yeah right and has not seen or heard of co detectors during their dive career ? yeah right ... just another person trying to lay blame ........is this going to be like sue happy USA here in canada now ??????

The case is in a California court.

 

[fisheater]

The case is in a California court.

Do you know which county?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Dr. Lecter]

Do you know which county?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Cross v. PADI America's Inc., Wyndham Hotels and Resorts, LLC, Sunshine Dive & Charter, AMX Baja Holdings, and Steadfast Companies

U.S. District Court
Southern District of California (San
Diego)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 3:13-cv-00837-L-MDD

Good lord, I have *never* seen so many documents stricken for failure to follow local/ECF rules as I see on this docket. And surprisingly, it's not just the plaintiff's attorney getting his filings bounced...either the judge is a real hard case or people on both sides aren't even bringing their B game. A bunch of strikes for "Lacking proper signature" makes me think it's mostly the latter.

 

[t4e]

Ignorance? Padi is the training agency, yes? How about reading the linked story...?

And this one linked on that page: Instructor of Calgarian who died while diving also felt sick - Calgary - CBC News

i read the article alright
AFAIC it is ignorance if you don't go and try to educate yourself further, instead point the finger to someone else
i know you paid for your training, but before undertaking an activity with such risks attached as in scubadiving, and where everyone tries to inflict safety, its nobody's fault that you can't be bothered to do some research before jumping in the water