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Hey George ORH,
Just my 2 cents as I just built up my kit recently (end of summer-fall 03) Tons of good advise here on SB. I too looked at Sherwood but after some homework went with Apeks. A little higher up in price but well worth it. You'll be able to tell a good reg when you get down over a 100 feet. The Apeks really delivers, you can FEEL and HEAR the delivery, it's right there. You won't go wrong with Scubapro either from what I hear. If you don't feel the need for an environmentally sealed first stage you could save a few bucks. If you are only diving warm water you may want to consider that. I dive both cold and warm so I based my decision on that and went with the ATX200. I probably sound like a Scubaboard posterboy but I went with a Suunto Vyper as well. Great computer, easy to use, highly recommended. By going to a wrist mount I ditched my depth guage from my big dangly SPG and mounted my pressure guage in a single rubber mount. It's clipped next to my left D-ring on a belt loop. Only hangs down several inches improving my streamlining big time as well as getty rid of some annoying task loading and anxiety. For fins I went with the old Scubapro Jetfins. Still in use by many divers especially tec, wreck divers. A stiff fin provides many benefits pertaining to control that other fins (split?) don't provide. I've only dove these fins so I can't make a fair comparison. I have no problems keeping up on the average reef dive. Maybe a different story on a drift dive, haven't done drift diving yet. And for a BC, I'm another BP/W convert. No comparison in my mind. I can now go to doubles if desired, mount any style of tank, add different weights to the backplate etc. etc. without EVER having to buy another BC. If I buy a single tank BC and want to go to doubles I may have to buy another BC. If I puncture the wing I can just replace that, instead of the whole BC. It's VERY streamlined, just straps around the front, no bulky padding to reduce streamlining in the water or to add positive buoyancy. If you go with a regular BC just do your homework. Determine if you want a back inflate or if want the air all around you. Research weight integration. I paid not much more for the FredT custom backplate, Oxycheck wing, harness kit etc. than I did for an overpriced Scubapro Classic BCD that the local dive shop tried to sell me. With Fred I got a complete package including superior customer support from initial investigation, throughout purchase and as much followup support as required to complete my "rig" and help with "tuning" it for my first dives. All the dive shop wanted to do was sell me an expensive BC. Do your homework, ask questions then make decisions based on what you want. Don't forget to look ahead as to where you might think you want to be as a diver several years down the road. I don't know if it will help but I'm diving all this gear in my avatar.
 
Hi George_ORH,

Just my opinion, as i am using the Avid and the Sherwood Oasis; for around 30+ dives already.

I find the avid a good jacket bc, with all the neat features (i.e many many D rings, big pockets, integrated weights..) and the price will not burn a hole in ur pocket. :yelclap: I find it pretty comfortable, this is in regards to what i've tried before, like the SP glide series and the classic.

As for the oasis, I love it. For what they say, in its price range, it is comparable to the SP MK2/R190(i think, if my memory is on track). The flow is comparable, no problems when i was in the 100ft region. It is also supposed to prevent 'dry mouth', never had a problem with it, though my girlfriend swears it helps. Only bane was probably when I tried to breathe off it when facing upwards. Then I do feel the strain.

Erm, this is basically my limited experience that i can say for the Avid, and Oasis, if you are considering. I think bottom line would be try all those BCs that you have narrowed down, and get 'the one the fits best'. (both in the sense of fit and budget!)

Hoped it helped, have fun in choosing. Cheers!! :beerchug:
 
Everyone seems to be offering some great advice on here and I REALLY appreciate the effort I see coming out in all these friendly voices(messages)....It's nice guys, really nice.

Anyway, Can someone shed some light on me about the backplate and wing? Are these additional options or are they standard on some bc's? Sorry for the "ignorance" on these. I am curious as to the plus on having these?

Thanks again,
George
 
Guess I should of read a little more.... So backplates are basically a BC? It looks like a stripped down version of a bc?
 
I don't think it is a stripped down version, we call it streamlining. Here's a link to Halcyon's site on their BP/W: http://www.halcyon.net/mc/index.shtml. I have 2 of these setups, one for me and one for my GF. I use mine with both single and double tanks (with different wings). I switched to BP/W last year before a Roatan trip, and I won't go back to a standard BC. My girlfriend just started using the BP/W and she can't believe the positive effect on her trim and comfort. We highly suggest going with a BP/W from Halcyon, FredT or Oxycheck you won't go wrong with any of these mfg.
 
Those things really look streamline! I am wondering how 'ruff' the price is on those though..
 
George_ORH:
can anyone tell me a good place to purchase it all from, online.
Sherwood Avid BC (small in size)
Sherwood Maximus Regulator
Sherwood Minimus Backup Regulator
Sherwood Wisdom Computer/Compass


Thanks!
George

I'm assuming that this is the first gear purchase you're making. I don't know much about Sherwood. Never dived them.

But if you want the best bang for your buck look into the Sherwood, Dacor, Tusa, or Mares packages that are offered. They all include Reg/Octo/BCD/gauge console, and are pretty cheap $400-750. You don't get the computer, but it's still a good deal. But if you plan on upgrading anytime soon, if you got the dough, go for it from the start. It'll save you the aforementioned $400.

Leisurepro.com offers a sherwood package that goes for $720 that has most of the equipment you are looking for.
Sherwood Package #6

But, follow your own heart (and your pocketbook). Do whatever fits you best.

- PolsVoice

PS. you can check out other scuba packages at LeisurePro.com scuba packages
 
Is it possible to rebuild your own regulators, because I will probably end up having to do it... I am VERY mechanically inclined, if that helps any.
 
I'm just a regular diver like you.. I have just over 50 dives, and thanks to SB I tried a backplate and wing. Very, very awesome. I can't say enough about it and I will never again dive a jacket BC. It's not complicated, it's streamlined, it works, it'll last forever, and it lets me take weight off my belt. Beautiful.
 
George_ORH:
Those things really look streamline! I am wondering how 'ruff' the price is on those though..

$480 gets you a complete Oxycheq backplate/wing system from www.covci.com

$555 gets you the Halcyon equivalent, which is what I have. I would have bought the Oxycheq, but, well, it didn't exist at the time ;)

FredT will send you a high quality backplate complete with harness and all the hardware (D-rings and so forth) for I think $130 IIRC ($90 backplate, $40 harness.. not entirely sure about that). You can add any wing and single tank adapter to this and be ready to dive.

Also, if you troll ebay or the gear exchange for a while, something is bound to come up.
 

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