Bull Shark ate my DINNER!

[Wayward Son]

Here, we have to be out a lot farther to legally spear or PH them other than defensively. I think it's 9 miles out. So a lot of sharks that might get shot for food don't for the simple reason that you're not out far enough to take them.

I've eaten shark & would eat them again, but I dislike killing something that I can't eat, unless I have to. well, I do make an exception for coyotes but that's a different deal.

And there's the problem of getting a 10 ft bull in a boat that isn't equipped for lifting. getting it to the surface is the easy part, a lift bag will do that. it's the last couple of feet over the side of the boat that's tough.

 

[wardric]

it's the last couple of feet over the side of the boat that's tough.

Not if you're Chuck Norris

 

[MauiScubaSteve]

Around here they get so conditioned that a few shots with a speargun, even if they're misses & no blood is in the water, will bring them in looking for an easy meal. It's because they have learned to associate that sound with food, by having divers give up their catch.

I have friends who were forced to kill bulls when starting a dive, i mentioned one already. There was no catch to protect, he was saving his own azz & not really concerned about future divers at the time. The odds are good that this shark had been fed quite a few times, but that's a guess. All we know for sure is that he didn't get 15 feet down on his dive when this shark assaulted him, close enough for him to beat on it multiple times before deciding to shoot it. He did not believe that he would be able to turn around & get back in the boat un-bitten, this shark was as aggressive as any he's ever encountered.

Don't feed them & you may be saving their lives at a later date.

So scuba spearos on the east coast have conditioned the bull sharks to the point that they occassionally harrass &/or attack not just divers with catch and divers shooting spears, but also divers just entering the water, possibly even non-hunters? After showing the ability to take advantage of the abnormal activity in their home, the remarkably evolutionary shark is then killed for reacting un-naturally? I would argue that the shark is reacting normally given the behavier of the spearos and I would counter that the most dangerous activity to humans is the scuba spearos as without them bull sharks would not be harrassing divers (eventually, maybe, can they devolve?).

I'm a predator. When it comes to fish, spearing is the method of take that has the least impact on the resource.

if you want to feed them, fine. Just don't ***** me out later when I find myself in a bind that requires me to kill it. I'm trying to avoid that & feeding them makes that harder.

Once any predator exhibit a learned unnatural response that puts a human in harms way, it must be removed from the equation-relocated or culled.

It seems that quite a few of the other posters are talking about unnatural learned behaviors in response to speared fish, so your saying they all don't know what their talking about?

WS may be the Walker of scuba spearos and never give up his catch but evidently not all his peers are able or even inclined. I've seen plenty video of sharks getting to the spear first and I doubt even Chuckie could stop that (does he wear a double holster?). Scuba spearos, there's the predator that exhibts a learned unatural response that puts humans in harms way (spearing fish while breathing underwater). I fully agree complete removal of the offending predator is the only real way to diminish the danger to humans.

Hawaii is way different, here is a recent post in the Ohana.

Aloha FoShezzie.
Lets get started on the happy foot. Spearfishing in Hawaii is a delicate subject. You have the right idea if you plan to eat what you hunt, and only take what you need, IE the minimum that you need. Outsider or not, you most likely won't be looked upon favorably if you have a spear in your hand. And do not EVER have a spear and scuba gear at the same time. It might not be illegal, but I wouldn't do it. Remember too that a dive shop, or better yet a free diving shop, might be more expensive but they will also have helpful info for you. Such as where to go and where not to go, both for good fishing, safe water, and to avoid trouble. Also I recommend getting the book put out by the Division of Aquatic Resources (DAR) on locations and animals and areas that are protected, regulated, prohibited, toxic, etc. You can contact DAR directly for the book or a QUALITY retail location will have that for you, and they are free. Most locals are friendly if you follow the pecking order, same as surfing. One last note, the only people who make comments about the Tiger Sharks are the ones who have not had a real encounter. Sharks in Hawaii are sacred, and their discussion in many forums is taboo, so exercise caution. One last note for your own enjoyment, hunt during the week when most everyone is at work. You'll have the place to yourself and you'll be much less likely to get hassled. All that being said, I'd rather see you buy a camera than a spear.

 

[photohikedive]

WS may be the Walker of scuba spearos and never give up his catch but evidently not all his peers are able or even inclined. .

Now that you mention it.... he does have a beard. And I have never seen Stu and Chuck on the same boat at the same time before.....

I've seen plenty video of sharks getting to the spear first and I doubt even Chuckie could stop that (does he wear a double holster?).

Excuse me, but his name is CHUCK NORRIS, but you may call him Sir Norris. And if the shark even looked like it would go for his spear, he would roundhouse kick it.

Scuba spearos, there's the predator that exhibts a learned unatural response that puts humans in harms way (spearing fish while breathing underwater). I fully agree complete removal of the offending predator is the only real way to diminish the danger to humans.

Humans are nearly the ultimate preadator, and have been able to adapt to any environment. Therefore we deserve to eat what they want.

Chuck Norris on the otherhand IS the ultimate predator, and doesn't have to hunt. He is so efficient, when he is hungry plates of his favorite meal, shark steaks, just appear.

Hawaii is way different, here is a recent post in the Ohana.

Chuck Norris is a man of action, and doesn't care what some lefty on a volcano dribble, out past the left coast might whine about the fate of some fish.


***** The views of this post are not necessairily that of the poster. Chuck's words must be spread, and you now have heard them. *****

 

[Rick Murchison]

Chuck's words must be spread, and you now have heard them. *****

Coffee through the nose!
Rick

 

[Wayward Son]

 

[photohikedive]

Coffee through the nose!
Rick

in or out?

 

[grassyknoll]

Chuck Norris? Chuck Norris....hmmmmm, oh yeah, I do know him. He's the guy from the infomercials who pimps the ultimate home gym thing right, or is it an Ab-lounger?

 

[photohikedive]

Chuck Norris is "The MAN"

His displeasure at the weakness of Americans has driven him to attempt to pass on some healthy lifestyles.

Knowing that the average slouch would best be reached by broadcasting on "unemployed time" tv, and that simplton america will buy anything they see during a tv show/advertisment. Chuck Norris has targeted the weakest link in our country, with this astounding show of charity.

You've seen the infomercials huh?

Well, his aim is good, even if the goal was unreachable.......


:mooner:

 

[wardric]

yeah, he's fine. but he's not the real Master. Lee Van Cleef is